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Title: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: Chase on January 02, 2012, 07:12:40 PM: (http://www.battlegroundgames.com/images/battleground_clearbkrd.png) (http://www.battlegroundgames.com/forum/index.php?board=6.0)

Battleground Invitational 40k Tournament

On January 5th, 2013, Battleground will host an Invitational Event to celebrate the community's best of the best.

Earning an invitation is simple... but not easy.

For each Singles and Doubles Battleground Tournament, the winning players for Best General and Player's Choice will each receive an invitation. In Doubles events, each winning team member will be extended an invitation. *

Battleground also wants to award consistency, both in tournament results and community support. Thus, we introduce...

The Battleground 40k Standings

By finishing a Battleground 40k event, every player will earn points based on the number of competitors in the tournament. **

After the last tournament in November, Battleground will award invitations to the top players in the Standings, filling out the ranks until our Top 32 are invited!

The Invitational Event

The Invitational will be free to attend. After all, we are inviting you!

As the particulars of the event are parsed out, we can tell you a part of each tournament's prize pool will be given over to the Invitational prize pool.

Know there will be only two prizes, but they will be among the largest ever given out at a Battleground tournament. We hope to have a significant high-stakes event, the ultimate chance to crown two of our community's finest with well-deserved titles! In the end, there will be but one Best General and one Player's Choice.

* Should a player qualify twice (or more), the invitation(s) will be awarded to the second place finisher, and so on until an invitation can be awarded to a new player. If one member of a winning Doubles team has already qualified, the invitation will go to the other member of that winning team, and no "extra" invitation will be extended during that event.

** For those who like formulas: Points = (# of players + 1) - Position
Basically, a 1st place player will receive a number of points equal to the number of players who enter the event. 2nd place will be awarded one point less, 3rd one less than 2nd place and so on.
Points awarded for Doubles events will be based on the number of teams, not the total number of players.

CURRENT STANDINGS (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AuAzuwQYWKDLdFV0TnB3eE9YTVVyZTFUN3I2MVNWMkE)

The first 32 players that will be invited are:

Alex Fennell
Ben Boulanger
Ben Mohile
Bill McFadden
Bill Souza
Bradley Powers
Brian Prue
Chris Scotti
Dan Bunker
Dean Johnson
Frank Doyle
Hans Cote
Jared Friedman
Jason Orlowski
Jeff Hobin
Jeremiah Nesser
Jordan Clark
Keith Bonneau
Matt Bennett
Matt Forsyth
Mike Defevers
Mike Kachanis
Nate Mello
Ragnar Arneson
Rick James
Roger Melo
Ryan Deane
Simon Leen
Terra Jonson
Tiago Moniz
Todd Silber
Troy Esposito
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: Loranus on January 02, 2012, 07:46:00 PM: Got me Fired up with the Emperor's Fury this sounds awesome.
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: Bill on January 02, 2012, 07:57:12 PM: This is a fantastic idea. I can't wait to see how it pans out. Hopefully I can earn a spot.
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: King of the Elves on January 02, 2012, 10:16:17 PM: I think i just had a nerdgasm
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: canadianone on January 02, 2012, 11:12:01 PM: Darn, unless i actually win one of these, prolly not going to make it, i leave in september for college =( ill try though
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: Benjamin on January 03, 2012, 02:12:59 AM: Quote from: canadianone on January 02, 2012, 11:12:01 PM
Darn, unless i actually win one of these, prolly not going to make it, i leave in september for college =( ill try though

If my estimates are close (and they might not be), you'll just need to finish in the Top 16 or so of "Players Who Didn't Win" to be invited. That number depends on how the Doubles Tournaments shake out too.
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: canadianone on January 03, 2012, 03:10:18 AM: hahahha, doubtful XD but id go to most of the tournaments anyways, so it doesn't really make a difference.
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: Loranus on January 03, 2012, 03:16:05 AM: Tournament in December. 11 Months not including December. Take month out or 2 for Ard Boyz add in 3 of those being double tournaments. Means 12 People will qualify from 1st place or so then you have the players Choice for all these tournaments which will mean another 12 people possibly. So 24 people will be decided by awards. You figure those 24 people will also be in the top rankings most likely so if you go to every BG event and score in the middle you will probably be invited.

Who knows what will happen. It gets my blood boiling thinking about it. The end of the year its the best of the best playing to see who will be the BG 40k Champion*.

*Title still under Consideration
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: Benjamin on January 03, 2012, 03:40:27 AM: With absolutely nothing written in stone at all, and purely hypothetical...

Suppose 11 months, then two less for Ard Boyz and two less for Trios and one less for Megabattle. 6 months, 6 tournaments.

2 Doubles, 8 (2x2x2) players qualify (at max)
4 singles, 8 (4x2) players qualify

So that's 16 qualifiers at most, with 16 left to qualify through the standings.

I think it'll be a fun experiment, and I hope that's how people approach it!
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: Chase on January 03, 2012, 03:56:12 AM: Quote from: Benjamin on January 03, 2012, 03:40:27 AM
Suppose 11 months, then two less for Ard Boyz and two less for Trios and one less for Megabattle. 6 months, 6 tournaments.

2 Doubles, 8 (2x2x2) players qualify (at max)
4 singles, 8 (4x2) players qualify

So that's 16 qualifiers at most, with 16 left to qualify through the standings.

I think it'll be a fun experiment, and I hope that's how people approach it!

When mapping this all out this is the conclusion I came to.

For various reasons I can't recall at the moment, I remember placing the 4th singles tournament being problematic.

Battleground has been approached by a few people, clubs, and/or organizations that would like us to host, sponsor, or try out their events in 2012. I think this speaks to what our local community has done for the hobby in the area and I'm interested in giving these people, clubs, and/or organizations a shot. The downside is that these events take up a time slot on the calendar and will not be solely a Battleground venture. Because of this, several of the events this year may not feed into our Invitational.

Like Ben has mentioned, this is experimental. I am very interested in how it all works out. It has potential and I am very much interested in feedback as the year progresses.
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: Grimwulfe on January 03, 2012, 08:45:57 AM: Will there be a current standings posted anywhere throughout the year? So that we may talk it up throw challenges you know general smack talk of sorts.
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: Chase on January 03, 2012, 01:18:51 PM: Yes.
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: Benjamin on January 03, 2012, 04:20:05 PM: It hasn't been mentioned yet, but I do believe this upcoming tournament on the 7th is the first tournament of the year to count toward the standings. Chase can confirm.
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: canadianone on January 03, 2012, 04:36:09 PM: Yeah, Chase said that when it was first announced.
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: GossWeapon on January 21, 2012, 10:30:01 PM: Does the winner get a battleground?
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: Chase on January 21, 2012, 10:51:16 PM: Probably not.
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: Loranus on January 21, 2012, 11:15:41 PM: Well you can Have Alterac Valley Noone is using it really.
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: cryptoron on February 28, 2012, 07:14:11 PM: I'm curious about the standings, will they be posted any time soon?
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: Chase on February 28, 2012, 07:49:49 PM: Keep in mind that we have only had 1 event that contributes to the current standings. That event was the 40k Singles from January 7th.

The next event that will contribute to the overall standings is the 40k Singles event on March 24th. Details TBA.
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: Loranus on February 28, 2012, 08:03:51 PM: Don't wotry Cryptotron I'm last so your above somebody.;)
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: Grimwulfe on February 29, 2012, 12:29:54 PM: Chase a good idea for you maybe. The winner of the invitational should get a BG shirt stating as much and a plaque maybe. Also not sure if it is doable but all invitational participants should get a shirt as well.

Not sure how this effects costs or if its doable but I thought it would be a good idea.
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: Achillius on February 29, 2012, 09:09:20 PM: Quote from: Chase on February 28, 2012, 07:49:49 PM
Keep in mind that we have only had 1 event that contributes to the current standings. That event was the 40k Singles from January 7th.

The next event that will contribute to the overall standings is the 40k Singles event on March 24th. Details TBA.

Damnit, surely you meant March 31st...
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: Loranus on February 29, 2012, 10:15:52 PM: March 31st Chase is going to run a Warmachine event it looks like so surely it isnt the 31st
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: cryptoron on March 01, 2012, 01:35:20 PM: oh, I thought the Trios event applied.
"Don't wotry Cryptotron I'm last so your above somebody." Actually I think we're tied then :-\
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: Sir_Prometheus on March 20, 2012, 07:18:17 PM: Yesss......I also thought the Trios even applied? There were only 8 teams, so I fugre it wouldn't count very much, but still....
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: Benjamin on March 20, 2012, 07:20:58 PM: Having Trios apply would be unfeasible. It also puts a competitive edge on what should be one of the most casual events. In my opinion.
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: Sir_Prometheus on March 21, 2012, 04:24:35 PM: I fail to see how it is qualitatively different than the doubles tournaments. And I also kinda see battlegrounds as a relatively "competitive edge" venue.
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: Benjamin on March 21, 2012, 07:03:18 PM: It's not about the Trios event itself, but it's implications.

To me, the integrity of the Invitational event is paramount. In a Trios event, it is possible that two excellent players can drag along a third player to victory who may not otherwise be "invited". Also, in a single event, Best General(s) and Player's Choice(s) would net 6 automatic bids out of 32 available spots. That's huge. Then what if two players on a team were or weren't already invited... Trios basically created a bunch of "what if?" headaches.
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: Bill on March 21, 2012, 07:14:50 PM: Gee Ben, now I know how you really feel about me. :'(
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: Benjamin on March 21, 2012, 09:21:24 PM: Quote from: Bill on March 21, 2012, 07:14:50 PM
Gee Ben, now I know how you really feel about me. :'(
Cry all you want, tears and Trios don't get you into the Invitational. You should be a better player, like Keith.
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: Bill on March 21, 2012, 09:34:32 PM: That cuts me deep bro.....real deep
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: Mike_k on March 21, 2012, 10:36:08 PM: Yup me and Keith clearly were trying to carry Bill sorry it didnt work bud, better luck when the 32 players who make it this year all move out of the country then you can get in, maybe...
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: keithb on March 22, 2012, 09:43:46 AM: It is getting a little lonely here.
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: Chase on March 22, 2012, 07:19:19 PM: STANDINGS (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AuAzuwQYWKDLdHpGZ2xvMHExQzB2V1lkZXlRMlpCWWc)
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: keithb on March 22, 2012, 08:02:24 PM: Could you denote who is already in and doesn't count in the standings anymore? Might help people who are trying to calculate if they are in or how well they need to do.

(Obviously not really an issue currently.)
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: Chase on March 22, 2012, 08:53:38 PM: I definitely will... As soon as this next event is over.

busy busy!
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: Benjamin on March 23, 2012, 01:10:23 AM: I thought about this tonight, we'll denote who has qualified with an asterisk next to the player's name. Easy peasy.
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: Sir_Prometheus on March 23, 2012, 10:37:19 AM: Man, is it bad I don't even remember the January tournament? I went, stuff happened, that's all I know.
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: Chase on March 23, 2012, 03:07:41 PM: Nope. That's good. Tomorrow's event will be pretty similar.
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: Benjamin on March 26, 2012, 08:13:40 PM: Quote from: Chase on January 02, 2012, 07:12:40 PM
Basically, a 1st place player will receive a number of points equal to the number of players who finish the event. 2nd place will be awarded one point less, 3rd one less than 2nd place and so on until last place receives one point.
Chase, please revise the above part to read as follows.

"Basically, a 1st place player will receive a number of points equal to the number of players who enter the event. 2nd place will be awarded one point less, 3rd one less than 2nd place and so on."

This means more points for everyone who finishes an event. It also makes math easier on my end. Win-win, as long as you finish tournaments.

Also, I submitted the numbers to Chase for updated standings, so expect those to be released soon-ish.
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: Chase on March 26, 2012, 08:53:40 PM: CURRENT STANDINGS (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AuAzuwQYWKDLdGRvcHo3LV9YdmI1XzZoMUV3Yk5VcEE)
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: Loranus on March 26, 2012, 09:02:25 PM: Huzzah Im in the top 32 now :D.
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: Benjamin on March 26, 2012, 10:21:57 PM: So everyone can see I'm using a simple Excel sheet with a simple formula and the Sort function. If anyone reading this has a better way to simply punch in data, be it better formulae, different programs or anything else, I'm always open to improvements. Absolutely no complaints on my end, but it does feel like I'm doing out this long-hand. :)
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: Moosifer on March 27, 2012, 11:44:15 AM: Chase will you be keeping the same format for the games going forward? By this I mean will we be able to track how people do for obj 1/2/3 and BP and be able to break it down?
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: Chase on March 27, 2012, 12:28:09 PM: I am not 100% sure.
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: cryptoron on March 28, 2012, 07:19:01 PM: Finally on the board, now I just have to knock out two people above me...
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: Chase on May 28, 2012, 10:24:10 PM: Standings after the Doubles Tournament on 5.26 (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AuAzuwQYWKDLdEJBcW9mTjctR0p6enJudjMxQVB4WlE)

Original post has been updated also.
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: Benjamin on May 28, 2012, 10:30:07 PM: To all,

As always, if you notice anything amiss with the Standings, please let us know. If the math is wrong, or if you play every Thursday and the store spells your name wrong, that can be fixed.

Boulander. C'mon man. ;)
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: Chase on May 28, 2012, 10:35:51 PM: Quote from: Benjamin on May 28, 2012, 10:30:07 PM
Boulander. C'mon man. ;)

This makes me laugh even now.
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: Benjamin on May 28, 2012, 10:48:19 PM: Quote from: Chase on May 28, 2012, 10:35:51 PM
This makes me laugh even now.
People were calling me that most of the day, and I didn't know why until after the first match was over.

Okay, it *is* funny when I tell it like that.
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: Chase on May 29, 2012, 01:04:32 PM: The "C'mon man" was a nice touch.
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: Sir_Prometheus on June 07, 2012, 01:30:45 PM: Hey, I got a question. Are our standings at the time of the invitational going to affect anything during the tournament?
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: keithb on June 07, 2012, 01:38:03 PM: Those who are the last chosen will be spit upon when entering the store by those who were first chosen.
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: Chase on June 07, 2012, 03:28:08 PM: Quote from: Sir_Prometheus on June 07, 2012, 01:30:45 PM
Hey, I got a question. Are our standings at the time of the invitational going to affect anything during the tournament?

Nope.

fake edit: What Keith said.
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: Benjamin on June 08, 2012, 12:32:49 AM: Quote from: keithb on June 07, 2012, 01:38:03 PM
Those who are the last chosen will be shit upon when entering the store by those who were first chosen.
Fixed.
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: Benjamin on June 20, 2012, 11:10:50 PM: Just sent the updated Standings to Chase.

I will note that until this point, I neglected to take tie-places into position. Mistakes were made. This situation is now rectified and some of you will be glad to find an extra point or two added to your total! Now if you and another player tied for 6th, you both get 6th place points.

The Standings so far are definitely a who's who of the BG Tournament scene. Consistency is really helping players (very much like myself) who normally would not see such heights.

Hans, I must break you. One frakkin' point ahead of me!
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: Chase on June 20, 2012, 11:33:52 PM: CURRENT STANDINGS (as of 6.20.2012) (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AuAzuwQYWKDLdG52MFl5Z3JtVUpQalR4MElYcWkwZXc)
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: King of the Elves on June 21, 2012, 10:58:19 AM: quick question is it the people with the * that are in or is it everyone on the list?
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: Grimwulfe on June 21, 2012, 11:46:56 AM: People with the * have already won there spot in the invitational so technically they wouldnt compete for the placing, point wise.
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: Typhus on July 10, 2012, 11:01:18 AM: Haha. I had no idea I was on this list.

I WIN INTERNET.
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: Typhus on September 05, 2012, 11:51:42 AM: Chase -

Any idea if/when you'll be running more qualifying events?
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: Chase on September 05, 2012, 05:31:24 PM: Looking like October 6th, with a chance of being Oct 13th.
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: Typhus on September 05, 2012, 05:35:29 PM: Quote from: Chase on September 05, 2012, 05:31:24 PM
Looking like October 6th, with a chance of being Oct 13th.

Sounds good. FYI, Battle for Salvation GT in Nyack is Oct 5th-7th, not sure if people were planning on going to that.
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: Benjamin on September 05, 2012, 06:50:17 PM: Quote from: Typhus on September 05, 2012, 05:35:29 PM
Sounds good. FYI, Battle for Salvation GT in Nyack is Oct 5th-7th, not sure if people were planning on going to that.

That's usually a really good event. I'd expect people to go. People should say something if they are planning to go there.
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: Chase on September 05, 2012, 09:48:45 PM: I'm aware of BfS and coming off of the Minivitational I am more inclined to run against it on the 6th.

I need to get my shit together. So much to do...
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: Sir_Prometheus on September 06, 2012, 10:01:55 AM: So wait.....you're saying you would prefer to go head to head with them?
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: Chase on September 06, 2012, 02:03:31 PM: Quote from: Sir_Prometheus on September 06, 2012, 10:01:55 AM
So wait.....you're saying you would prefer to go head to head with them?

Yes.

If half (say like 4) of the GT circuit regulars end up going to NY for BfS than the field is that much weaker. Coming off of the Minvitational I am okay with that.

I may still do the 13th though.
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: andalucien on October 10, 2012, 01:38:15 PM: Any inkling of what the format / point level will be for the invitational? I am kind of messing around with a few different allied contingents and stuff right now, but I want to make sure that my army for the Invitational is both acceptably pretty and fine-tuned and deadly so maybe it's time to pick a direction.
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: Chase on October 10, 2012, 04:26:40 PM: It'll be 1850 or 2000 point singles.
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: Benjamin on October 10, 2012, 07:04:23 PM: At this point, it's definitely a fair question. The Invitational would be just 2+ months away, and it is high stakes. Time to buckle up and buckle down!
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: Benjamin on October 16, 2012, 10:56:34 PM: Jeremiah Nesser qualifies for the Invitational through Best General. (Bill and Alex are already invited.)

Brian Prue qualifies for the Invitational by winning Player's Choice.
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: Chase on October 17, 2012, 01:08:43 PM: CURRENT STANDINGS (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AuAzuwQYWKDLdGtBWF8wa3NMaTNZNE5QeHVKcWJuaHc)

Updated today.

1 more qualifier left!
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: Benjamin on October 20, 2012, 10:46:05 AM: I've had a number of people, especially those who have moved in the past year, request a date later in December, more toward the holiday season. I think the weekend of the 29th would be a great choice.
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: andalucien on October 20, 2012, 11:23:51 AM: I would definitely vote for earlier in December (like around the 10th). There's a good chance that I will be out of town, visiting family on the 29th, and it would be a bummer to have to miss the invitational.

I suspect that I'm not alone & that the week between Christmas and New Year's would be higher than average in terms of the number of people who will be travelling...
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: PhoenixFire on October 20, 2012, 12:21:08 PM: Quote from: Benjamin on October 20, 2012, 10:46:05 AM
I've had a number of people, especially those who have moved in the past year, request a date later in December, more toward the holiday season. I think the weekend of the 29th would be a great.

I like it, Christmas parties (and Christmas) are over by then and therefore should be able to get the bulk of the attendees to be able to make it. Personally myself and probably many others here have various family/friend/work holiday parties on all the Saturdays leading up to Christmas.
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: Seth on October 20, 2012, 04:51:35 PM: not really I believe the week in between Christmas and new years as previously stated would most likely have more people out of town and that Christmas parties and such would just have to come down to a choice for the individual. go to a Christmas party or to an event that you have work a year to get invited to.
http://www.bts.gov/publications/america_on_the_go/us_holiday_travel/html/entire.html (http://www.bts.gov/publications/america_on_the_go/us_holiday_travel/html/entire.html)

"During the 6-day Thanksgiving travel period, the number of long-distance trips (to and from a destination 50 miles or more away) increases by 54 percent, and during the Christmas/New Year’s Holiday period the number rises by 23 percent"

"At the Christmas/New Year’s holiday, the average increases to nearly four nights away."
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: Chase on October 20, 2012, 10:44:23 PM: I am strongly leaning towards December 8th at this minute.

I'm not super interested in having a public discussion related to the date of the event. I hope to have it for you for tomorrow night.
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: andalucien on October 21, 2012, 03:29:27 PM: Haha... I think the lesson is that December is probably the worst month to have an Invitational. Maybe next year we wait till January after the holidays are just over?
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: Benjamin on October 21, 2012, 04:12:21 PM: Quote from: andalucien on October 21, 2012, 03:29:27 PM
Haha... I think the lesson is that December is probably the worst month to have an Invitational.

Yeah, whose idea was that anyway?
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: PhoenixFire on October 21, 2012, 06:01:27 PM: Quote from: andalucien on October 21, 2012, 03:29:27 PM
Haha... I think the lesson is that December is probably the worst month to have an Invitational. Maybe next year we wait till January after the holidays are just over?

Great idea, i loved the concept of the Invitational this year but yah, December looks to be problematic. Oh well live and learn, hopefully next years Invitational is in January
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: Chase on October 22, 2012, 01:04:55 PM: The Invitational date is going to be January 5th, 2013.
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: Banosby on November 01, 2012, 11:12:57 PM: Quick question for those in the know. What are the chances I'll still be invited after all the qualifiers are over? I have tentative plans to be in California on the 5th, but those are pretty flexible plans. I'd probably push off going (or make sure I was back by then) if there was a good chance I'd still be in.

Also, do we have a rules pack? Point level, potential mission types, whether we're using mysterious objectives/terrain, etcetera?
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: Loranus on November 02, 2012, 12:44:20 AM: Banosby the way I am looking at it right now if you are in the top 33 after the last qualifier you will be able to go. I think I will be dropping out of that area after the Doubles because I can never make it to those things.
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: Chase on November 02, 2012, 06:01:59 AM: Quote from: Banosby on November 01, 2012, 11:12:57 PM
Also, do we have a rules pack?

Not yet.

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Point level,

1850

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potential mission types,

The fun, tournamenty types that get thought about after this stupid MtG event is over this weekend?

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whether we're using mysterious objectives/terrain

No mysterious objectives. Terrain will be used, however (but not the mysterious kind).

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etcetera?

More details when it's not 5am and I can stop seeing cards everywhere I look.
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: Benjamin on November 02, 2012, 07:57:27 AM: Quote from: Chase on November 02, 2012, 06:01:59 AM
More details when it's not 5am and I can stop seeing cards everywhere I look.
Coincidentally, this is me and sports cards.
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: Banosby on November 02, 2012, 10:23:00 AM: Any idea how many games it'll be? Trying to figure out how important it'll be to table people as opposed to just winning.

And any guesses if I'll be in the top 33 or whatever after the remaining qualifiers? How many qualifiers are left?
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: Grimwulfe on November 02, 2012, 10:35:10 AM: Top 33 I dont think is correct. There are 16 spots that come from placings. Roughly about 5-6 already in that are in top 16 so roughly if you place in top 20 you should get in.

Simon right now your placed 11th with 1 tourny to go. I would say you are safe as I dont see you dropping 9 places after 1 tourny.
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: Banosby on November 02, 2012, 10:38:19 AM: Ok, top 20 then:)
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: keithb on November 02, 2012, 11:11:42 AM: I imagine tabling in the invitational will be important for winning it.
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: Benjamin on November 03, 2012, 04:19:29 AM: I did a bunch of work on one tournament tonight, with the idea to keep pushing forward now and get invitational stuff out sooner rather than later. So we're working on it all!

But of course, keep suggestions and ideas coming. Honestly, you guys have more experience playing and more experience about what makes a tournament work well. It's easy to work too close to something and not see obvious issues.
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: Banosby on November 03, 2012, 02:09:59 PM: How many games are you planning? That determines a lot of what the rest of the rules should look like.
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: Chase on November 05, 2012, 01:12:26 PM: We're doing 3. Just a 1 day event.
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: bradpowers on November 19, 2012, 11:06:01 AM: I hate to be "that guy," but I'd love to know when the invitational results will be updated!
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: Loranus on November 19, 2012, 11:17:40 AM: They usually get updated a Day or Two after the results from the last Tournament. So when Chase post the Doubles Results which most likely will be today or Tomorrow Ben or Chase will go about updating the invitational. It may be a Bit Longer this week Considering Thanksgiving,Black Friday, Local Business Saturday, and Abington being moved.
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: Benjamin on November 19, 2012, 07:43:31 PM: Once I get the file, I tend to update the Invitational standings pretty soon.
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: Chase on November 19, 2012, 08:06:54 PM: Despite me forgetting that I had to give Ben the file, he's got the file.

Tricky, right?
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: PhoenixFire on November 19, 2012, 08:18:29 PM: Quote from: Chase on November 19, 2012, 08:06:54 PM
Despite me forgetting that I had to give Ben the file, he's got the file.

Tricky, right?

Did you pass him the file in a cool "homeland" covert dead drop kind of way? Or the much less exciting email method?
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: Benjamin on November 19, 2012, 09:51:45 PM: November Doubles

Congratulations to Rick James for automatically qualifying for the Invitational by way of Best General. (His partner Bill Souza previously qualified.)

Congratulations to Benjamin Boulanger and Bill McFadden for automatically qualifying by way of Player's Choice.
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: Benjamin on November 19, 2012, 10:08:13 PM: The complete list of players who automatically qualify by way of Best General or Player's Choice.

Alex Fennell
Ben Boulanger
Ben Mohile
Bill McFadden
Bill Souza
Brian Prue
Dean Johnson
Jeff Hobin
Jeremiah Nesser
Keith Bonneau
Mike Kachanis
Rick James
Terra Jonson
Todd Silber
Troy Esposito

That's a total of 15 players who have automatically qualified.

The top 17 players who have yet to automatically qualify will do so by their overall standing.

I am sending the final results to Chase now, and we'll make it official. (I know, right? Me doing something not unofficial.)
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: Chase on November 21, 2012, 09:00:39 PM: CURRENT STANDINGS (FINAL) (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AuAzuwQYWKDLdFV0TnB3eE9YTVVyZTFUN3I2MVNWMkE)

So like Ben said, the 15 people with a litte star next to their name are invited, as well as the top 17 people who do not.

The first 32 players that will be invited are:

Alex Fennell
Ben Boulanger
Ben Mohile
Bill McFadden
Bill Souza
Bradley Powers
Brian Prue
Chris Scotti
Dan Bunker
Dean Johnson
Frank Doyle
Hans Cote
Jared Friedman
Jason Orlowski
Jeff Hobin
Jeremiah Nesser
Jordan Clark
Keith Bonneau
Matt Bennett
Matt Forsyth
Mike Defevers
Mike Kachanis
Nate Mello
Ragnar Arneson
Rick James
Roger Melo
Ryan Deane
Simon Leen
Terra Jonson
Tiago Moniz
Todd Silber
Troy Esposito
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: Benjamin on November 21, 2012, 09:12:37 PM: That list is really impressive. We've got our work cut out for us now!
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: Chase on November 23, 2012, 10:35:09 PM: We will be working on the packets after TG break. We hope to have them available to the players by December 8th, which is when official invite emails will be sent out.
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: Benjamin on November 23, 2012, 11:30:43 PM: I've already started working on things, put in some good effort today. Very excited about the whole thing!
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: Mike_k on November 25, 2012, 10:57:46 AM: Do you have the next 4-5 in line as well for standby etc im also hearing a few people may not be able to make it.
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: Benjamin on November 25, 2012, 12:23:23 PM: If a qualifying player tells us they cannot make the event, we will extend an invitation to the next highest player in the standings. And so on, until we fill the event.
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: Mike_k on November 26, 2012, 11:25:26 AM: Is there a painting requirement being planned? This will dictate if I wait and save up to get my army painted pro style or if I do it myself in my typical splash and dash style =)
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: Benjamin on November 26, 2012, 10:18:07 PM: Quote from: Grandmaster_Octavian on November 26, 2012, 11:25:26 AM
Is there a painting requirement being planned? This will dictate if I wait and save up to get my army painted pro style or if I do it myself in my typical splash and dash style =)
That's a good question I had not yet considered. I'll make sure it gets on the pile of things to sort out.
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: BrianP on November 26, 2012, 10:55:44 PM: Quote from: Benjamin on November 26, 2012, 10:18:07 PM
Quote from: Grandmaster_Octavian on November 26, 2012, 11:25:26 AM
Is there a painting requirement being planned? This will dictate if I wait and save up to get my army painted pro style or if I do it myself in my typical splash and dash style =)
That's a good question I had not yet considered. I'll make sure it gets on the pile of things to sort out.

I generally do not care, but for an event like this... I would really like to see a 3-color minimum required for models. We have a great group of players lined up, the last thing I want to play against is an army of grey plastic at what is supposed to be the crown jewel of Battleground events. Ya know?
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: PhoenixFire on November 26, 2012, 11:01:27 PM: Quote from: quiestdeus on November 26, 2012, 10:55:44 PM
Quote from: Benjamin on November 26, 2012, 10:18:07 PM
Quote from: Grandmaster_Octavian on November 26, 2012, 11:25:26 AM
Is there a painting requirement being planned? This will dictate if I wait and save up to get my army painted pro style or if I do it myself in my typical splash and dash style =)
That's a good question I had not yet considered. I'll make sure it gets on the pile of things to sort out.

I generally do not care, but for an event like this... I would really like to see a 3-color minimum required for models. We have a great group of players lined up, the last thing I want to play against is an army of grey plastic at what is supposed to be the crown jewel of Battleground events. Ya know?

I'm personally against a painting requirement since none of the qualifying events had a painting requirement.

Sure it would be nice and maybe something to add for next years invitational, that way people would have a year to get whatever army they plan on taking fully painted.

I'm already racing to get stuff painted for Templecon, no way i will have my stuff ready for January 5th
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: bradpowers on November 26, 2012, 11:06:20 PM: I am for a painting requirement, for what it's worth.
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: Banosby on November 26, 2012, 11:36:05 PM: The more quickly we have a rules packet so we know which army to paint, the more reasonable a painting requirement is. I qualified in 5th edition and am building an army (well, an army is being built....) for this event, but it can't get painted until I build the list, which I cannot do until I know what kind of event this'll be.

Mush Ben, Mush!
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: Benjamin on November 27, 2012, 12:00:09 AM: (http://i48.tinypic.com/2pso8i1.jpg)

"Typing!"

*typetypetype*
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: keithb on November 27, 2012, 11:00:12 AM: I don't think making painting a requirement would work at this point as we are 5 weeks from the event. That said there is at least one major award that tends to require you to be painted...
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: Chase on November 27, 2012, 01:13:36 PM: Painting will not be a requirement.
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: Dan Bunker on December 09, 2012, 04:36:32 PM: how many points is the invitational? i dont see it posted anywhere
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: Benjamin on December 09, 2012, 05:42:44 PM: 1850 points.
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: Tharcil on December 09, 2012, 08:43:40 PM: First page of this thread could do with an update regarding the final date and points. I found both combing through the whole thing, but who really wants to do that?!
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: Benjamin on December 09, 2012, 09:49:03 PM: We should be official sooner rather than later.
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: Mannahnin on December 10, 2012, 10:39:19 PM: I'm really psyched for this, although if I could vote, I'd vote for mandatory painting. That said, I guess it does open more army list options for me with less work. Maybe a horde of chaos cultists... Or some Necron allies...
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: Banosby on December 10, 2012, 11:45:35 PM: Whatever you're running, hurry up and finalize it and let me know so I can start the tailoring process.

Speaking of which, we need to submit lists at all?
Title: Re: Battleground 40k Invitational Information
Post by: Chase on December 11, 2012, 04:34:22 PM: Things are more or less finalized.

Invites have been sent and have most of the non-scenario details.

Lists will need to be submitted but I'll send out reminder emails ~8 days before the event.

Event post will go up today or tomorrow.