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Title: [Plainville MA] Feast of Blades Qualifier - 2000pt 40k 6th Edition Tourn - 8/4
Post by: Chase on July 03, 2012, 04:45:00 PM
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Format: Singles (1v1) 1999+1 points per person (details below)
Date: August 4th, 2012 a Saturday
Time: Please be here no later than 10:00am.  Set up at 10:30.  Dice roll no later than 11:00am.
Entrance Fee:  $20.00 per person

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Contact:
The event will be capped at 42 players. 

Please contact me at ChaseLaq@gmail.com or call the store to sign up if and only if you can commit to playing on August 4th.

Pre-registration is required.  Our events fill up fast so if you know you're going to play don't hesitate to sign up.



RULES FOR WARHAMMER 40K TOURNAMENT

Rule Books:
The Warhammer 40,000 SIXTH Edition Rules will be used.

The following is a list of legal army choices:
Codex: Black Templars
Codex: Blood Angels
Codex: Chaos Daemons
Codex: Chaos Space Marines
Codex: Grey Knights
Codex: Dark Angels
Codex: Dark Eldar
Codex: Eldar
Codex: Imperial Guard
Codex: Necrons
Codex: Orks
Codex: Space Marines
Codex: Space Wolves
Codex: Tau Empire
Codex: Tyranids
Codex: Sister of Battle (White Dwarf)




MODELS AND POINTS:

1. Each player must bring an army consisting of 1999+1 points (but no fewer than 1975), in accordance with these rules...

1a.  Player's must take 1999 point lists but are allowed to be 1 point over.  This is a FoB rule implemented to avoid the double Force Org Chart a 2000 point list allows for.

2. All models must follow “What You See Is What You Get” (WYSIWYG). All weapons, war gear, and so forth must be represented on the model.

3. Unfortunately, Forge World Imperial Armor units (and army lists) may NOT be used in this event.  Forge world models may be used where appropriate, however.

4. We will require that each player submits an itemized army list to a Battleground Tournament Organizer on or before Monday, July 30th, 2012 (roughly a week before the event).  An Army Builder .pdf is preferred but a detailed text file (.txt) is acceptable.

Please email lists to ChaseLaq@gmail.com as soon as they are finalized.

5. If illegal units or other rules violations are found in a player’s army list, at a minimum,
the models in violation will be removed from all subsequent play. In addition, tournament points may be deducted and/or award eligibility may be forfeited. If in doubt, please ask for clarification in advance from a Battleground Tournament Organizer.

6.

- Qualifiers will NOT be using "mysterious terrain," rules. (p.102-103)
- Qualifiers will NOT be using "Archotech artefacts" rules (p 106)
- Qualifiers will NOT be using "unique terrain," rules (p. 107)

- Qualifiers will NOT be using warlord traits.



The scenarios we will be using for the event can be found here. (https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bwv4A2MZxWOnbUhKcGtmMHRfdXc/edit?pli=1#)




HOW THE TOURNAMENT WORKS:

• Competitors will participate in three (3) games over the course of the day. In each game, you
will play a scenario and record the outcome of the battle on your results sheet. Each round you
will play a different opponent.  Each round will last 2.5 hours.

• In the first round, players will be matched up randomly. After the first round, players will be
matched up according to current rankings in the tournament (based on the number of points they've scored) e.g., the player in first place will play the player in second place and so on. We will try our best not to pair players that come to the event together in the first round. If a player receives a BYE they will be awarded the average of the winning players points for the round.

• You will not play the same person twice.

• We will do our best to prevent a player from playing on the same table twice.

• The pairings for each round will be announced as soon as they are determined. Please be sure to arrive at your table ready to play right away.

• Slow playing will NOT be tolerated.  Players are expected to complete at least 4 rounds.  If you suspect your opponent is slow playing PLEASE notify a Battleground staff member as soon as possible as we can not do anything about alleged slow play after the fact.

• Each game will be played on a 4' x 6' board.

• Players will receive Results Sheets at the beginning of each round. Each results sheet must be filled in properly to ensure that match-ups and point totals are correct. Once Results Sheets are completed they are to be turned in at the counter so the scores can be entered into the computer.




BATTLES:

The SIXTH Edition Rulebook will be in use for all games and will be the definitive guide for all rules. The time limit for each game is 2.5 hours. At the end of this time limit, the round will be called; all players will need to finish their game immediately, and no additional time will be provided (dice down).


What You Need to Bring with You:
-Your (hopefully painted) miniatures
-At least TWO copies of your army list
-Rulebooks are required as are any additional books you need
-Pen and paper
-Dice and templates
-Tape measure
-Something to transport your army from table to table




STORE CREDIT AWARDS WILL BE GIVEN OUT TO:
Store credit is good for any product in the store and all subsequent events.  It never expires and will be saved for you.

Best General
Second Best General
Third Best General

Fourth Best General - Only awarded if we have 32 or more players

Best Appearance - Army
(There will not be an award for the best looking single miniature for this event.)
Smokin' Boots - You got crushed... and you deserve an award for your epic failure.


• A note on the Appearance awards - We will award the individual who we feel has the best looking army. We will use a scoring rubric that looks at painting, basing, display boards, and various other "extras" to determine the winner.

• A player may only receive one award with the exception of the Appearance award, which may be awarded to anyone, regardless of their other accolades.



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Title: Re: [Plainville MA] Feast of Blades Qualifier - 2000pt 40k 6th Edition Tourn - 8/4
Post by: Chase on July 03, 2012, 04:50:36 PM
Please note that we will not be giving out a Player's Choice award in this event. 

Whereas this is a qualifying event for Feast of Blades in October and will likely be very competitive, players are still expected to behave in a very respectful, sportsmanlike manner.

It is important to note that Battleground is running this event for Feast of Blades.  It is not a Battleground event and it will not count towards the Invitational.  Please expect certain things to function a bit differently.  For instance, we have not chosen the scenarios and you will not be given 15 minutes for deployment, it will cut into your 2.5 hour time limit.
Title: Re: [Plainville MA] Feast of Blades Qualifier - 2000pt 40k 6th Edition Tourn - 8/4
Post by: MM3791 on July 03, 2012, 05:07:38 PM
Fyi Army Builder lists may not be available as the program might not be updated with the new 6th ed rules in time.
Title: Re: [Plainville MA] Feast of Blades Qualifier - 2000pt 40k 6th Edition Tourn - 8/4
Post by: Chase on July 03, 2012, 05:08:08 PM
Well good luck to Sam then!!  :)
Title: Re: [Plainville MA] Feast of Blades Qualifier - 2000pt 40k 6th Edition Tourn - 8/4
Post by: Sir_Prometheus on July 03, 2012, 06:27:52 PM
I would like to reserve a spot.
Title: Re: [Plainville MA] Feast of Blades Qualifier - 2000pt 40k 6th Edition Tourn - 8/4
Post by: Chase on July 03, 2012, 07:08:20 PM
Please shoot me an email, Matt.
Title: Re: [Plainville MA] Feast of Blades Qualifier - 2000pt 40k 6th Edition Tourn - 8/4
Post by: tilarium on July 03, 2012, 08:48:05 PM
I told myself I was going to play in the next tourny... but the 4th is my best friends wedding.  She wins out over 40k, been there for me longer  :)  Hope everyone has a great time and I'll be looking forward to reading the battle reports!
Title: Re: [Plainville MA] Feast of Blades Qualifier - 2000pt 40k 6th Edition Tourn - 8/4
Post by: Sir_Prometheus on July 05, 2012, 07:37:18 PM
BTW, I'm a little confused, is this a qualifier for this Octobers Feast of Blades, or next years? 
Title: Re: [Plainville MA] Feast of Blades Qualifier - 2000pt 40k 6th Edition Tourn - 8/4
Post by: Chase on July 05, 2012, 10:33:31 PM
October's.
Title: Re: [Plainville MA] Feast of Blades Qualifier - 2000pt 40k 6th Edition Tourn - 8/4
Post by: MM3791 on July 06, 2012, 11:48:01 AM
This event looks awesome, I believe I will actually be able to attend this time! I hope in the new meta people don't start carpet bombing the $hizzle outta the battlefield, otherwise I be firing dark lances into the sky like its nobody's business lol  ;D
Title: Re: [Plainville MA] Feast of Blades Qualifier - 2000pt 40k 6th Edition Tourn - 8/4
Post by: Typhus on July 06, 2012, 09:41:14 PM
After extensive play-testing and hours of discussion we have come to a decision on what the qualifiers will look like in 6th edition.

- All qualifiers after Aug 1st will be held in 6th edition.
- Qualifiers will be at 2000 points.
- Qualifiers will be played "by the book." with the following exceptions below

- Qualifiers will NOT be using "mysterious terrain," rules. (p.102-103)
- Qualifiers will NOT be using "Archotech artefacts" rules (p 106)
- Qualifiers will NOT be using "unique terrain," rules (p. 107)

- Qualifiers will NOT be using warlord traits.

Allies, double FOC and Fortifications (buyable terrain) are in and are 'by the book,' for using them/  There will be small changes to the mission and we will repost them on our main website www.feastofblades.com under the tab "important documents." a link will also be posted here and on the front page of the website; as well as in the monthly newsletter.

(Taken from the FoB website and Facebook)
Title: Re: [Plainville MA] Feast of Blades Qualifier - 2000pt 40k 6th Edition Tourn - 8/4
Post by: andalucien on July 06, 2012, 10:43:11 PM
Looks like they removed the "Warlord Traits" clause.
Title: Re: [Plainville MA] Feast of Blades Qualifier - 2000pt 40k 6th Edition Tourn - 8/4
Post by: Sir_Prometheus on July 06, 2012, 11:36:42 PM
Alright, sounds great, then.
Title: Re: [Plainville MA] Feast of Blades Qualifier - 2000pt 40k 6th Edition Tourn - 8/4
Post by: Chase on July 07, 2012, 07:04:01 AM
Looks like they removed the "Warlord Traits" clause.

Where do you see this, Matt?  It looks like Warlord traits are (still) out.  Is that what you meant?
Title: Re: [Plainville MA] Feast of Blades Qualifier - 2000pt 40k 6th Edition Tourn - 8/4
Post by: Chase on July 07, 2012, 07:06:28 AM
Scenarios (https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bwv4A2MZxWOnbUhKcGtmMHRfdXc/edit?pli=1#)
Title: Re: [Plainville MA] Feast of Blades Qualifier - 2000pt 40k 6th Edition Tourn - 8/4
Post by: Benjamin on July 07, 2012, 01:27:27 PM
There are some things I like... but...

Why are 2 of the 3 missions set up with Vanguard Deployment? I love the diagonal deployment, but I love variety more.

Why are there so many misspellings? I'm by no means a perfectionist, but that packet was brutal. :(
Title: Re: [Plainville MA] Feast of Blades Qualifier - 2000pt 40k 6th Edition Tourn - 8/4
Post by: Sir_Prometheus on July 07, 2012, 01:47:07 PM
The 6th ed missions have the virtue that the "dead zone" is always 24".  But can you see doing the short table edge deployment in a tournament, with every table end to end?  Everyone will have to be crossing each other around the end of the lane just to deploy!  I'm too lazy for this business.

To be clear, non-scoring units can still hold table quarters and zones, right?  They keep on saying "scoring points value" but seems to just be a a new way to say victory points, that no longer exist. 

I like warlord traits because they're good for big beefy HQs, which is what I got, but like everything else, I hate random tables, so it's probably good they're gone. 
Title: Re: [Plainville MA] Feast of Blades Qualifier - 2000pt 40k 6th Edition Tourn - 8/4
Post by: Benjamin on July 07, 2012, 01:57:59 PM
The 6th ed missions have the virtue that the "dead zone" is always 24".  But can you see doing the short table edge deployment in a tournament, with every table end to end?  Everyone will have to be crossing each other around the end of the lane just to deploy!  I'm too lazy for this business.
I agree the short edge is definitely a bad deployment for tournaments. But what about the old Spearhead or Pitched Battle deployments? They're still viable.
Title: Re: [Plainville MA] Feast of Blades Qualifier - 2000pt 40k 6th Edition Tourn - 8/4
Post by: Sir_Prometheus on July 07, 2012, 02:10:20 PM
Breaks the 24" rule.  I value that consistency.  Besides, I remember some people complaining about fitting all their hordes in spearhead. 

The "stormbreaker" bonus condition needs clarification. 
Title: Re: [Plainville MA] Feast of Blades Qualifier - 2000pt 40k 6th Edition Tourn - 8/4
Post by: Benjamin on July 07, 2012, 02:23:52 PM
Breaks the 24" rule.
What 24" rule?
Title: Re: [Plainville MA] Feast of Blades Qualifier - 2000pt 40k 6th Edition Tourn - 8/4
Post by: Sir_Prometheus on July 07, 2012, 02:54:21 PM
the 24" deadzone?
Title: Re: [Plainville MA] Feast of Blades Qualifier - 2000pt 40k 6th Edition Tourn - 8/4
Post by: Benjamin on July 07, 2012, 04:24:48 PM
the 24" deadzone?
Yes. Where is that rule?
Title: Re: [Plainville MA] Feast of Blades Qualifier - 2000pt 40k 6th Edition Tourn - 8/4
Post by: Sir_Prometheus on July 07, 2012, 05:54:25 PM
I suppose, technically, I should have said "principle".  All the new missions have a nice, even, consistent 24" deadzone, and it's a "principle" I would like to maintain, including for generic BG tournaments.

You said "why no spearhead" and that's why.  IMHO.  It's not like I wrote the missions. 
Title: Re: [Plainville MA] Feast of Blades Qualifier - 2000pt 40k 6th Edition Tourn - 8/4
Post by: andalucien on July 07, 2012, 10:16:54 PM
Ohh, I didn't see they added a comment that they were removing warlord traits.  I just saw that it wasn't mentioned in the main post and assumed they'd edited the post.  My bad!  warlord traits are still out...

Sigh.  I kind of like the warlord traits. 
Title: Re: [Plainville MA] Feast of Blades Qualifier - 2000pt 40k 6th Edition Tourn - 8/4
Post by: andalucien on July 10, 2012, 11:37:52 AM
I'm kind of disappointed that everyone seems to have shot down the short edge deployment before even trying it.  It seemed like a way to add some freshness into the deployment.   Now that there's no more old Dawn of War, there's just not much difference in the other deployments.

What's the big deal about putting models on the other side of the table?  It happens all the time during a game anyway.  I mean, there are frequently missions where the primary objective is to have units in the other guy's deployment zones.  And, full reserve armies used to completely ignore deployment zones anyway.   I just don't see the pain points here...
Title: Re: [Plainville MA] Feast of Blades Qualifier - 2000pt 40k 6th Edition Tourn - 8/4
Post by: PhoenixFire on July 10, 2012, 01:14:23 PM
I'm kind of disappointed that everyone seems to have shot down the short edge deployment before even trying it.  It seemed like a way to add some freshness into the deployment.   Now that there's no more old Dawn of War, there's just not much difference in the other deployments.

What's the big deal about putting models on the other side of the table?  It happens all the time during a game anyway.  I mean, there are frequently missions where the primary objective is to have units in the other guy's deployment zones.  And, full reserve armies used to completely ignore deployment zones anyway.   I just don't see the pain points here...

Personally i look forward to trying the short edge deployment, it will be a boost to shooting armys and make vehicles more uusefull in 6th edition by prolonging the enevitable assualt at least another turn.

As far as dawn of war it does tend to hurt my shooting armies at least the randomness of it gives me a chance to have it take effect later instead of turn 1 where shooting is most usefull
Title: Re: [Plainville MA] Feast of Blades Qualifier - 2000pt 40k 6th Edition Tourn - 8/4
Post by: Benjamin on July 11, 2012, 07:13:42 PM
I'm kind of disappointed that everyone seems to have shot down the short edge deployment before even trying it.
You've been to a tournament at BG before, yes? The tables are put short-end to short-end. It is completely unfeasible. The deployment itself is fine, but it will not currently work at a BG tournament.
Title: Re: [Plainville MA] Feast of Blades Qualifier - 2000pt 40k 6th Edition Tourn - 8/4
Post by: Sir_Prometheus on July 11, 2012, 07:16:45 PM
I think like 90% of tournaments have the table ends pressed together.

I concur.  Like the deployment, think it's fine, but it's inclusion is a sign that GW doesn't give a flying F about tournaments.

Buy our models, paint them.  Buy our dooks, read them.  We're done. 
Title: Re: [Plainville MA] Feast of Blades Qualifier - 2000pt 40k 6th Edition Tourn - 8/4
Post by: PhoenixFire on July 11, 2012, 08:17:53 PM
I'm kind of disappointed that everyone seems to have shot down the short edge deployment before even trying it.
You've been to a tournament at BG before, yes? The tables are put short-end to short-end. It is completely unfeasible. The deployment itself is fine, but it will not currently work at a BG tournament.

It really is a shame Ben,

As i've said before i really think it would make for interesting games and would level the playing field for vehicles and shooting armies in a 6th edition that is assault heavy.

That being said your point is a valid one Ben, it will likely never work because 4 people will be shoulder to shoulder on the same edge and shows once again that people at GW don't actually play games or visit stores and tournaments.

and in my opinion is another aspect of the game that while MEANT to balance the game (my aforementioned arguement of it being balancing for vehicles/shooting) it is HARD to implement just like fortifications at tournaments, being forced to use and by extension BUY flyers, etc

the 6th edition book is like a shopping cart with wobbly wheels, you take away one aspect (wheel) and the whole thing swings out of balance...

take away short deployment = better for assault armies
take away double force org = some armies lose out
take away fortifications = people lose out on anti-air capability

feast of blades taking out warlord traits, mysterious forests and random relic effects... well that doesn't really swing the whole shebang out of whack because it effects everyone



Title: Re: [Plainville MA] Feast of Blades Qualifier - 2000pt 40k 6th Edition Tourn - 8/4
Post by: Benjamin on July 11, 2012, 09:09:32 PM
As i've said before i really think it would make for interesting games and would level the playing field for vehicles and shooting armies in a 6th edition that is assault heavy.
Sam and I have an idea we need to test out, about how side-deployment can make a BG tournament appearance, but it definitely needs to be tested. It'll either be a grand success or a really amusing failure. All in due time.
Title: Re: [Plainville MA] Feast of Blades Qualifier - 2000pt 40k 6th Edition Tourn - 8/4
Post by: andalucien on July 11, 2012, 10:02:03 PM
I'm kind of disappointed that everyone seems to have shot down the short edge deployment before even trying it.
You've been to a tournament at BG before, yes? The tables are put short-end to short-end. It is completely unfeasible. The deployment itself is fine, but it will not currently work at a BG tournament.

I've been to lots.  I don't understand how it would be infeasible.  Does everyone think that you need to actually be standing behind your deployment zone in order to place models on the side of the board?  Why can't the models be placed the same way we do it now when we outflank, deep strike, or walk over and assault the guys on the other side of the board?  I.e. by reaching across the table?   

Is it just that I have long arms?  Does the part of every game where you go near the other guy's table edge represent a hardship for most people?
Title: Re: [Plainville MA] Feast of Blades Qualifier - 2000pt 40k 6th Edition Tourn - 8/4
Post by: Benjamin on July 11, 2012, 10:41:13 PM
Is it just that I have long arms?  Does the part of every game where you go near the other guy's table edge represent a hardship for most people?
I play Daemons, and yes, it presents a notable issue in nearly every tournament I play. I'm an average-sized human being. I have noted most Warhammer players are bigger than I.

Consider large models like Flyers as you're reaching across. Whoops, knocked over another Stormraven. Oh my, another Forest is accidentally moved by my sleeve. If I had coordination, I'd play sports.

How else do you determine LOS for those units across the table if you can't position yourself behind the models? I go over to the other side, which along the way involves being all up in multiple people's personal space. And I'm doing that for 2+ hours. Oh, it's cute for the first 3 turns and I make jokes. By Turn 5, the shine's wore off.
Title: Re: [Plainville MA] Feast of Blades Qualifier - 2000pt 40k 6th Edition Tourn - 8/4
Post by: andalucien on July 11, 2012, 11:07:46 PM
Is it just that I have long arms?  Does the part of every game where you go near the other guy's table edge represent a hardship for most people?
I play Daemons, and yes, it presents a notable issue in nearly every tournament I play.

I play daemons too, sometimes.

Soo...  as Daemon players, the deployment zone makes no difference to us whatsoever, right?

Your example about flyers -  flyers move 36" when they arrive from reserve, so effectively they also have no deployment zone and are just as likely to be on my side of the table as yours at any given point in time. 

... which is part of my overall point...  even if you initially place your models closer to you (which is only true of some units and some armies), over the course of the game, you're going to end up on the other side anyway.  Maybe this is made very mildly worse by being able to deploy up and down one short table edge, but is it really that much of a deal breaker? 

 
Title: Re: [Plainville MA] Feast of Blades Qualifier - 2000pt 40k 6th Edition Tourn - 8/4
Post by: Sir_Prometheus on July 11, 2012, 11:09:00 PM
Heck, I'm a largish human being (without too huge a gut to get in the way), I can't exactly comfortably reach the other side of the table. 
Title: Re: [Plainville MA] Feast of Blades Qualifier - 2000pt 40k 6th Edition Tourn - 8/4
Post by: Captain Bryan! on July 12, 2012, 04:23:07 AM
how come people cant use less than 1975 points? is there a benefit to bringing less? O_o
Title: Re: [Plainville MA] Feast of Blades Qualifier - 2000pt 40k 6th Edition Tourn - 8/4
Post by: andalucien on July 12, 2012, 12:21:45 PM
OK, how about the Nova Open's approach to short table edge deployment (you can't put models within 12" of the opposite edge)?  Good compromise?

http://www.novaopen.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/NOVA-2012-Warhammer-40000-Rules-and-Missions-Primer.pdf?utm_source=NOVA+6th+Edition+Newsflash%3A++July+11%2C+2012&utm_campaign=June2012&utm_medium=email
Title: Re: [Plainville MA] Feast of Blades Qualifier - 2000pt 40k 6th Edition Tourn - 8/4
Post by: Sir_Prometheus on July 12, 2012, 12:27:56 PM
Is this official?  I thought they were still discussing it?

Anyway, I dunno.  I guess it solves the problem, but if players didn't want to put units in that last 12", they didn't have to.  Is this one of those "by limiting choice, we are freeing them" sorta things?
Title: Re: [Plainville MA] Feast of Blades Qualifier - 2000pt 40k 6th Edition Tourn - 8/4
Post by: andalucien on July 12, 2012, 12:45:08 PM
It's official in the sense that Nova sent out the packet to everyone, but not final.
Title: Re: [Plainville MA] Feast of Blades Qualifier - 2000pt 40k 6th Edition Tourn - 8/4
Post by: PhoenixFire on July 12, 2012, 02:50:20 PM
OK, how about the Nova Open's approach to short table edge deployment (you can't put models within 12" of the opposite edge)?  Good compromise?

http://www.novaopen.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/NOVA-2012-Warhammer-40000-Rules-and-Missions-Primer.pdf?utm_source=NOVA+6th+Edition+Newsflash%3A++July+11%2C+2012&utm_campaign=June2012&utm_medium=email

it seems like a good compromise to me (of course im a tall bastard with long arms) we should get some people together and try it out at a thursday 40k where 3 people side to side are running this modified deployment

they also seem to have reached a reasonable compromise with fortifications

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Fortifications:
 You may not select a Skyshield Landing Platform
 You may  not select a Fortress of Redemption
 You may not place any Fortifications on top of pre-placed NOVA Open Tournament Terrain

i guess you can just put it whereever there is room

as far as warlord traits seems they want you to have something good

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Warlord Traits:
 First, nominate 2 of the 3 Warlord Traits tables
 Second, roll 1d6 for each of the 2 nominated tables
 Finally, select one of your two results to be your Warlord Trait for the game
 You may NOT roll twice on the same table
 This ruling is for the purposes of this Primer
 If you roll the Warlord Personal trait that awards 1 additional “Victory Point” for every Character
your Warlord kills, change this to instead award 50 Points toward your Competitive Rating and
Tiebreaker for every Character your Warlord kills



Title: Re: [Plainville MA] Feast of Blades Qualifier - 2000pt 40k 6th Edition Tourn - 8/4
Post by: Sir_Prometheus on July 12, 2012, 03:24:08 PM
Yeah, sounds surprisingly sensible for the most part.

Except, they should be using 2 FOC.  :)
Title: Re: [Plainville MA] Feast of Blades Qualifier - 2000pt 40k 6th Edition Tourn - 8/4
Post by: Thefallen on July 12, 2012, 07:06:18 PM
So this turni is basically 5th ed with fliers and allies?
Why fudge with the rules?
If your gonna do a 6th ed turni then  do it. Dont hack up the rules in a misguided attempt to make it seem more fair.
Title: Re: [Plainville MA] Feast of Blades Qualifier - 2000pt 40k 6th Edition Tourn - 8/4
Post by: keithb on July 13, 2012, 10:02:31 AM
So this turni is basically 5th ed with fliers and allies?
Why fudge with the rules?
If your gonna do a 6th ed turni then  do it. Dont hack up the rules in a misguided attempt to make it seem more fair.

The only thing they are not doing is double FOC (which they shouldn't for a 1999 event as it would be against the rules).   And limiting some of the Fortifications.

Mysterious terrain is silly and bad,   completely random Warlord traits is silly and bad.

How is it 5th exactly?
Title: Re: [Plainville MA] Feast of Blades Qualifier - 2000pt 40k 6th Edition Tourn - 8/4
Post by: Dan Bunker on July 15, 2012, 11:38:10 AM
Part of the scenarios packet is the painting scoring. Does this count towards an overall winner or is this a seperate part?
Title: Re: [Plainville MA] Feast of Blades Qualifier - 2000pt 40k 6th Edition Tourn - 8/4
Post by: Chase on July 15, 2012, 06:49:06 PM
That was a great question, Dan.  I'm glad you asked because I did not know the answer before checking the FAQ just now.

The scores will be weighted like this:

Battle Points - 70%, Painting - 20%, Sportsmanship - 10%
Title: Re: [Plainville MA] Feast of Blades Qualifier - 2000pt 40k 6th Edition Tourn - 8/4
Post by: Benjamin on July 17, 2012, 08:02:16 AM
Under Battle Point Modifiers, I just noticed that one gets 5 points for the game finishing on Turn 5. What if you lose the game? What if you finish earlier (in the case of a tabling) or later (due to Random game length)? I seriously cannot tell their intention here.
Title: Re: [Plainville MA] Feast of Blades Qualifier - 2000pt 40k 6th Edition Tourn - 8/4
Post by: Sir_Prometheus on July 17, 2012, 09:54:09 AM
If you concede or whatever you still get it.  It's meant to fight slow-play.  I don't know that it's really the best way to do that.  (since slow play is often a one sided affair, anyway)

It's going to be much worse in 6th, since A) we're all still getting used to it.  B) There's going to be a lot more rules to argue over.  C) 6th seems to actually take longer to play. 
Title: Re: [Plainville MA] Feast of Blades Qualifier - 2000pt 40k 6th Edition Tourn - 8/4
Post by: keithb on July 23, 2012, 02:30:33 PM
I fully intend on playing my first 3 games of 6th on that day.    I also plan on challenging every rule I haven't experienced yet.
Title: Re: [Plainville MA] Feast of Blades Qualifier - 2000pt 40k 6th Edition Tourn - 8/4
Post by: Sir_Prometheus on July 23, 2012, 02:59:37 PM
That's not funny.
Title: Re: [Plainville MA] Feast of Blades Qualifier - 2000pt 40k 6th Edition Tourn - 8/4
Post by: keithb on July 23, 2012, 03:05:03 PM
It doesn't matter, I am going to have 4 tervigons and jam you up with crappy fearless units.  We won't get past turn 3.

GoGo GantJam.
Title: Re: [Plainville MA] Feast of Blades Qualifier - 2000pt 40k 6th Edition Tourn - 8/4
Post by: Sir_Prometheus on July 23, 2012, 03:05:55 PM
You still owe me ice cream. 
Title: Re: [Plainville MA] Feast of Blades Qualifier - 2000pt 40k 6th Edition Tourn - 8/4
Post by: keithb on July 23, 2012, 03:50:28 PM
Jams used to be considered a dessert, right?
Title: Re: [Plainville MA] Feast of Blades Qualifier - 2000pt 40k 6th Edition Tourn - 8/4
Post by: MM3791 on July 27, 2012, 04:59:48 PM
What are the "Qualifying" conditions that have to be met in order to advance to the October event? I (hopefully) plan on enrolling tomorrow, my army is almost built but unfortunately won't be fully painted in time for Saturday.
Title: Re: [Plainville MA] Feast of Blades Qualifier - 2000pt 40k 6th Edition Tourn - 8/4
Post by: Typhus on July 27, 2012, 05:04:11 PM
To qualify you simply have to be one of the three qualifiers by placing in 1st overall, 2nd overall or best general at a qualifier RTT location.

So its battle points + painting.  As the painting rubric is up to 20 points, it behooves one to have a painted army.

Rubric is here;

https://docs.google.com/a/darknoise.net/file/d/0Bwv4A2MZxWOnSlY2MjJORTlUTHliV3dfV01hLUprZw/edit
Title: Re: [Plainville MA] Feast of Blades Qualifier - 2000pt 40k 6th Edition Tourn - 8/4
Post by: MM3791 on July 27, 2012, 05:12:10 PM
Oh bummer, maybe I won't sign up then if I'm already going to start off with a severe disadvantage.
Title: Re: [Plainville MA] Feast of Blades Qualifier - 2000pt 40k 6th Edition Tourn - 8/4
Post by: Sir_Prometheus on July 27, 2012, 05:16:42 PM
Well I imagine best general doesn't include painting, and rubric looks pretty relaxed anyway.

You could also play just to play, get up to speed on 6th.
Title: Re: [Plainville MA] Feast of Blades Qualifier - 2000pt 40k 6th Edition Tourn - 8/4
Post by: MM3791 on July 27, 2012, 05:23:18 PM
Well I imagine best general doesn't include painting, and rubric looks pretty relaxed anyway.

You could also play just to play, get up to speed on 6th.

True, I'll see what happens in the next 24 hours!
Title: Re: [Plainville MA] Feast of Blades Qualifier - 2000pt 40k 6th Edition Tourn - 8/4
Post by: Benjamin on August 05, 2012, 01:28:26 PM
Unofficial results.

1st - Bill Souza
2nd - Dan Bunker
3rd - Matt Bennett

Best Painted - Dean Johnson
Title: Re: [Plainville MA] Feast of Blades Qualifier - 2000pt 40k 6th Edition Tourn - 8/4
Post by: Chase on August 05, 2012, 09:33:12 PM
That's correct.  I will be posting the sheet tomorrow at some point.
Title: Re: [Plainville MA] Feast of Blades Qualifier - 2000pt 40k 6th Edition Tourn - 8/4
Post by: MM3791 on August 06, 2012, 06:28:44 AM
I'm hoping I got the smoking boots award lol
Title: Re: [Plainville MA] Feast of Blades Qualifier - 2000pt 40k 6th Edition Tourn - 8/4
Post by: Chase on August 06, 2012, 02:37:10 PM
I'm hoping I got the smoking boots award lol

You did.  We owe you some dice, Mike.
Title: Re: [Plainville MA] Feast of Blades Qualifier - 2000pt 40k 6th Edition Tourn - 8/4
Post by: MM3791 on August 06, 2012, 04:15:21 PM
Sweeet haha
Title: Re: [Plainville MA] Feast of Blades Qualifier - 2000pt 40k 6th Edition Tourn - 8/4
Post by: cryptoron on August 06, 2012, 06:08:20 PM
We should start a Smoking Boots 40K Team.  The only qualification is that you finish last at least once at a BG tournament.
Title: Re: [Plainville MA] Feast of Blades Qualifier - 2000pt 40k 6th Edition Tourn - 8/4
Post by: Chase on August 06, 2012, 06:15:25 PM
I've got an event coming up that I think the Smokin' Boots guys might like.

Keep your eyes peeled.
Title: Re: [Plainville MA] Feast of Blades Qualifier - 2000pt 40k 6th Edition Tourn - 8/4
Post by: Benjamin on August 06, 2012, 09:40:08 PM
We should start a Smoking Boots 40K Team.
This would be pretty awesome. T-shirts and everything.
Title: Re: [Plainville MA] Feast of Blades Qualifier - 2000pt 40k 6th Edition Tourn - 8/4
Post by: cryptoron on August 06, 2012, 11:27:56 PM
Can you post the "Smoking Boots" players for all of the past tournaments (that you have records for)?  Then we can set up our membership   ;)
Title: Re: [Plainville MA] Feast of Blades Qualifier - 2000pt 40k 6th Edition Tourn - 8/4
Post by: andalucien on August 06, 2012, 11:59:42 PM
Oh man.... If this team gets cool t-shirts I might show up to the next tournament with 60 nurglings.
Title: Re: [Plainville MA] Feast of Blades Qualifier - 2000pt 40k 6th Edition Tourn - 8/4
Post by: MM3791 on August 07, 2012, 12:06:22 PM
Can the shirts be black with pictures of boots with smoke coming out of them? Just a thought..
Title: Re: [Plainville MA] Feast of Blades Qualifier - 2000pt 40k 6th Edition Tourn - 8/4
Post by: Sir_Prometheus on August 07, 2012, 03:14:33 PM
I registered for the feasts in Denver, in case anyone wanted to know. 

I'm a little curious as to what my painting score was like?
Title: Re: [Plainville MA] Feast of Blades Qualifier - 2000pt 40k 6th Edition Tourn - 8/4
Post by: Chase on August 07, 2012, 03:41:27 PM
You had the 6th best score.  I believe it was an 11 (top score was a 17.5).
Title: Re: [Plainville MA] Feast of Blades Qualifier - 2000pt 40k 6th Edition Tourn - 8/4
Post by: Sir_Prometheus on August 08, 2012, 04:30:09 PM
Thanks, Chase. 
Title: Re: [Plainville MA] Feast of Blades Qualifier - 2000pt 40k 6th Edition Tourn - 8/4
Post by: cryptoron on August 09, 2012, 02:14:22 PM
Black t-shirt, smoking jump boots in grey/blackened by fire, with a yellow "unhappy face" button.  At least that was my idea when I thought of it.  No writing, we'll let the unhappy face tell all :(