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Games Workshop => Warhammer 40K => Topic started by: andalucien on December 11, 2013, 03:51:48 PM
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I have a feeling this will be a very common sight.
"Oh yeah, this C'Tan is DEFINITELY transcendent".
It's the cheapest way to get a superheavy into your army by 10 miles, especially since the regular C'Tans are completely useless now and every old school necron player has a Deceiver hanging around in the back of a drawer somewhere.
I'd like to make this illegal just for.... Idunno, respect for superheavies? Haha....
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I played against someone at a BG tournament using a Tonka truck with paintball co2 cartridges in the back as a Manticore, it is up to the store what level of proxying they allow. If someone wanted to convert up one of the old c'tan models to look a lot cooler and be on the bigger base, why not allow it?
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GIVE D A CHANCE!!!
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I played against someone at a BG tournament using a Tonka truck with paintball co2 cartridges in the back as a Manticore, it is up to the store what level of proxying they allow. If someone wanted to convert up one of the old c'tan models to look a lot cooler and be on the bigger base, why not allow it?
Oh that would be fine I think. It's all about effort. I'm just talking about someone taking their existing Deceiver, plunking it on the table, and calling it a Transcendent C'Tan.
Is the real one on a bigger than 60mm base?
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I played against someone at a BG tournament using a Tonka truck with paintball co2 cartridges in the back as a Manticore, it is up to the store what level of proxying they allow.
This will never happen again. I was completely mislead by that guy via email.
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So if you guys ever wonder why I hate the idea of escalation so much....I played in a mini-apoc tournament a few years back in which I literally played a kid using upside down buckets with construction paper on them as stompas. (I don't think an actual stompa model existed, then) I was using some 5 hammerhead formation that existed at the time, and he just lifta-droppa'd them into each other. Wasn't even a D weapon, but there was no chance of victory.
And I was playing against buckets.
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I played against someone at a BG tournament using a Tonka truck with paintball co2 cartridges in the back as a Manticore, it is up to the store what level of proxying they allow.
This will never happen again. I was completely mislead by that guy via email.
That actually sounds hilarious, but I see how that can be a problem...
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I played against someone at a BG tournament using a Tonka truck with paintball co2 cartridges in the back as a Manticore, it is up to the store what level of proxying they allow.
This will never happen again. I was completely mislead by that guy via email.
That actually sounds hilarious, but I see how that can be a problem...
He had other tanks that weren't GE either, and he didn't know the rules, and we only got to turn 4. So I only got like 3 points shy of a max win :(
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I played against someone at a BG tournament using a Tonka truck with paintball co2 cartridges in the back as a Manticore, it is up to the store what level of proxying they allow. If someone wanted to convert up one of the old c'tan models to look a lot cooler and be on the bigger base, why not allow it?
I am pretty sure that I could make that look respectably Orky....
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You are just mad you didn't think shoebox thunderhawk first.
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I have a feeling this will be a very common sight.
"Oh yeah, this C'Tan is DEFINITELY transcendent".
It's the cheapest way to get a superheavy into your army by 10 miles, especially since the regular C'Tans are completely useless now and every old school necron player has a Deceiver hanging around in the back of a drawer somewhere.
I'd like to make this illegal just for.... Idunno, respect for superheavies? Haha....
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-gTr1rlW_Sok/T2FVQSd7KUI/AAAAAAAAD2k/ON-t0q4i524/s1600/plasticdudesmen053.jpg)
I'm with you Matt, Thursday 40k is one thing a tournament is another. My personal opinion is if there is an official model for it either have the official model or don't try to use it in a tournament.
If there isn't an official model than hey go nuts and make your own.
Want your whole army to be different than the norm like Matt's Daemons or Troys space wolves dwarves? that's cool too!
But please don't try to pass off the below, it's just poor form
(http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m1252429_99120101014_SMDreadnoughtmain_873x627.jpg)
A dreadnought is not a contemptor dreadnought
(http://static3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20121230001254/warhammer40k/images/8/81/ContemptorDreadnought12.jpg)
(http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m3110572a_99120113030_TauRiptide01_873x627.jpg)
a Riptide is not a Ravarna
(http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Images/Product/AlternativeFW/large/ravanap3.jpg)
(https://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m400698_99110110020_DeceiverMain_873x627.jpg)
a C'tan is not a Transcendant C'tan
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-CCd1qIvcQMI/UeptHBaP9qI/AAAAAAAAEhM/s-lEsUCJMpg/s400/IMG_6137.jpg)
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And please have your models fully assembled. Headless Tau or guardsman with no arms are not for the table.
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And please have your models fully assembled. Headless Tau or guardsman with no arms are not for the table.
Truth. Not for the tournament table anyways.
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Don't you need the teseract vault to field the Transcendent C'tan? If someone wants to glue 4 monoliths together more power to them.
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No, you can also run him in his "Escaped form", where he walks around without the cans and is a gargantuan creature. He actually 10x better than the "cans" version this way, the cans hold him back.
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is there a way of buying a transcendent without springing for the $160 teseract vault?
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Ebay
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One thing you could do is find someone who wants an Obelisk, and split the purchase with them 50-50. They get the obelisk (and now have the only superheavy that can be run in a 500pt tourney!) and you get the transcendent c'tan.
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It's also just humanoid model about the same size as the current C'tan, floating. (I guess roughly promarch sized)
The list of appropriate models is endless. Conversion opportunities are endless.
Rules wise, none of it should be.
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My buddy bought the Tesseract Vault and we played with it last Thursday. As far as the model of the C'tan is concerned. its actually smaller than the normal c'tans. I wouldn't have a problem personally with someone using a normal c'tan model as the Tesseract C'tan, provided its on the right size base and all. Aside from that it has a huge price tag in points so I'd imagine it would be very rare unless it was a 2000 point game.
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Huh, interesting. From the pictures, I always assumed the Transcendent one was bigger.
Sigh, I guess from that perspective all Necron players who started in 5th edition ALREADY have a superheavy.
To be fair, GW did change what this model was supposed to represent in the new codex... it used to be a fully fledged God-thing, and they came out with a new entry saying "no, now it's actually just a bound 1/10000000 fragment of something that used to be a god-thing".