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Games Workshop => Warhammer 40K => Topic started by: Chase on September 18, 2010, 04:52:35 PM
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Note to the local crowd: I would really love a strong showing from you guys for this event. Please come down, check out the new place, play some games, and help us kick off Warhammer 40k in Plainville. This will be the first major event of it's kind at the new store and I need you guys to represent!
Thanks,
-Chase
Battleground Games & Hobbies - Plainville
Format: Doubles (2v2) 1250 points per person
Date: November 6th, 2010 a Saturday
Time: Please be here no later than 10:00am. Set up at 10:30. Dice roll no later than 11:00am.
Entrance Fee: $20.00 per person / $40.00 per team
Address:
25 Taunton Street
Plainville MA 02762
508.316.1195
Google Maps:
http://maps.google.com/maps/place?cid=16912922797021373545&q=battleground+games+and+hobbies&hl=en&gl=us
Contact:
The event will be capped at 24 teams (48 players). Please contact me at ChaseLaq@gmail.com or call the store to sign up if and only if you and your partner can commit to playing on November 6th. If you need help finding a partner please post on the message board here.
Pre-registration is highly encouraged and may end up being required.
RULES FOR WARHAMMER 40K TOURNAMENT
Rule Books:
The Warhammer 40,000 Fifth Edition Rules will be used.
The following is a list of legal army choices:
Codex: Black Templars
Codex: Blood Angels
Codex: Chaos Daemons
Codex: Chaos Space Marines
Codex: Daemonhunters
Codex: Dark Angels
Codex: Dark Eldar
Codex: Eldar
Codex: Imperial Guard
Codex: Necrons
Codex: Orks
Codex: Space Marines
Codex: Space Wolves
Codex: Tau
Kroot Mercenaries
Codex: Tyranids
Codex: Witchhunters
MODELS AND POINTS:
1. Each player must bring an army consisting of 1250 points or fewer, in accordance
with these rules. Each team will consist of two players fighting together.
The Force Organization Chart will be split up into two parts as follows:
(Each player must take)
1 HQ
0-1 Elites
2-3 Troops
0-1 Fast Attack
0-1 Heavy Support
In addition, the two players on a team share three ‘floating’ selections, one each in Elites,
Fast Attack, and Heavy Support. Either player may use up to two of these floating slots,
but may not use the same slot as their partner. For example, Player A takes a second
Elites choice and a second Heavy Support choice. This means their partner, Player B,
may take a second Fast Attack choice as the third floating slot.
An exception to this is the mandatory choices for some armies. For example: "You must take this HQ at this many points." Those choices are allowed outside of these restrictions. Ex. Space Wolves.
2. All models must follow “What You See Is What You Get” (WYSIWYG). All
weapons, war gear, and so forth must be represented on the model.
3. Forge World Imperial Armor units (and army lists) may NOT be used.
4. If illegal units or other rules violations are found in a player’s army list, at a minimum,
the models in violation will be removed from all subsequent play. In addition,
tournament points may be deducted and/or award eligibility may be forfeited. If in doubt,
please ask for clarification in advance from a Battleground Tournament Organizer.
5. Teams are not integrated. You may not share tech (for example, using each others teleport homers, etc).
6. If a unit/wargear/ability says something to the effect of "choose a friendly unit/model" you may not select a teammates unit.
7. Necrons will never phase out.
The scenarios we will be using for the event will be a slightly modified version of the 2009 Adepticon Team Tournament Missions. I will be choosing 3 of the 4 scenarios.
The scenarios can be found here: http://www.adepticon.org/wpfiles/2009/0940Kteam.pdf
HOW THE TOURNAMENT WORKS:
• Competitors will participate in three (3) games over the course of the day. In each game, you
will play a scenario and record the outcome of the battle on your results sheet. Each round you
will play a different opponent. Each round will last 2.5 hours.
• In the first round, players will be matched up randomly. After the first round, players will be
matched up according to current rankings in the tournament (e.g., the player in first place will
play the player in second place and so on). We will try our best not to pair teams that come to the event together in the first round. If a team receives a BYE they will be awarded the average of the winning teams points for the round.
• You will not play the same team twice.
• The pairings for each round will be announced as soon as they are determined. Please be sure to
arrive at your table ready to play right away. We ask that each player be conscious of the
time and that you play at a regular and steady pace to complete the game. Anyone found slow
playing or deliberately stalling for any reason will be penalized.
• Each game will be played on a 4' x 6' board.
• Players will receive Results Sheets at the beginning of each round. Each results sheet must be
filled in properly to ensure that match-ups and point totals are correct. Once Results Sheets are
completed they are to be turned in at the counter so the scores can be entered into the
computer.
BATTLES:
The Fifth Edition Rulebook will be in use for all games and will be the definitive guide
for all rules. The time limit for each game is 2.5 hours. At the end of this time limit, the round will be called; all players will need to finish their game immediately, and no additional time will be provided.
What You Need to Bring with You:
-Your (hopefully painted) miniatures
-At least two copies of your army list
-Rulebooks and any additional books you need
-Pen and paper
-Dice and templates
-Tape measure
-Something to transport your army from table to table
Store Credit Awards will be given out to:
Store credit is good for any product in the store and all subsequent events. It never expires and will be saved for you.
Best Overall Team
Second Best Overall Team
Third Best Overall Team (only awarded if the turnout is large)
Best Theme (team)
Best Painted (individual)
Note: a team may only win one award.
Please post any questions or comments here.
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are the rounds going to be timed? if so an extra 20-45 min from last time would really help, i know all of my games if we had played a full game there would have been much different results. i know that was the only issue last time around otherwise it was a ton of funsies :D
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Rich and I are probably down. Chaos and Chaos.
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Dave, you're killing me here buddy. You're killing me! ;D
Great news, Ian! Awesome.
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SETH! The Pirate Fleets must sail again!
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Dave, you're killing me here buddy. You're killing me! ;D
Great news, Ian! Awesome.
its my job ;D
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I have been told I can not have the day off since I have already requested 15 days off since June. and we just lost a staff member.
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will play if i can find a partner
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Sean and I are in... should be entertaining.
Cheers,
Alan
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Kevin and I are in it! Because Space Marines Allied with Orks is totally fluffy.
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I have been told I can not have the day off since I have already requested 15 days off since June. and we just lost a staff member.
:'(
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Aj and I will be taking home the prize. blood angels and crimson fists, RDW.
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I am not certain of the Timing for the Codex but if the new DE Codex is out before the tourny will it be the Codex to go by or the old one?
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Well since its allready been done I have another WTF paring. World Eaters and Space Wolves
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Anyone looking for a partner? Looking to bring Eldar.
Shoot me a pm.
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Our differences have been put aside for the time being. Mostly since my 'allies' will not intefere in my gathering of the Monkaighs and that the presence of Chaos has cause for us to band together once again.
The skies will darken and the Monkaighs will know fear as their betters take the field.
The Fleets Sail.
Me and Doug will be a team.
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I will be teaming up with Mark.
"All will fear the Hammer of the Emperor!"
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I'm with Moon, because Yarrik loves teaming up alongside orks
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OK so do we have a roster list yet and how much space is left?
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Only two teams have emailed me, (spoke to me) or called the store to sign up as requested.
I have not filled in spots with teams posting in this thread yet because there tends to be a high "flake" factor with that sort of thing.
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I am not certain of the Timing for the Codex but if the new DE Codex is out before the tourny will it be the Codex to go by or the old one?
The most recent, accessible codex will be used.
Basically, if it's on sale it's going to be used.
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Excellent, all the cheesy goodness will be mine.
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People who have called / emailed / spoke to me / posted on here
Ian Mulligan + Rich Bourque
Sean MacDonlad + Eric Wittman
Steve Riley + Doug Walker
Bill Souza + Keith Bonneau
Nathan + Max (From Pandemonium)
Alan Phillips + Sean Phillips
David Goss + AJ DeFrancesco
Mike Salzman + Mark
Kevin Nolzn + Mike Do
Bryan Magnuson + Alex Moon
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I have IG if anyone is looking for a partner.
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ill paying with you dan if you want
i can bring Guard,blood angels,orks ,or necrons
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Excellent, all the cheesy goodness will be mine.
hmm, release date is November 6th ...... that'll bring tears to a few eyes LOL
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I know :(
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Excellent, all the cheesy goodness will be mine.
hmm, release date is November 6th ...... that'll bring tears to a few eyes LOL
This is terrible news.... :(
Damn.
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Steve, please do everything possible to have a really strong understanding of the rules / units you'll be using. This IS going to create some problems and people WILL complain about having to play against a Codex they've never seen before.
Both stores SHOULD have a preview copy of the Codex coming sometime soon so interested parties will have time to see it / read about it online.
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if the release date is the 6th then how would even steve know the codex? he would have to get it at 9 and have a list by 10?
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Chris and Brian are in. Dark Angels/Blood Angels combo.
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The stores will have a preview copy earlier than the 6th. See chase's comment.
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Chase and BG crew,
As I will not be in attendance for this tourny and will be at a GT the outcome of this argument has some validity. I would like to express my disagreement in letting the new DE codex be used in the tourny. There are a few reasons for this as I will state below.
1. Even with the advanced copy a player will not know all his rules in 2 weeks.
2. In said using the codex to learn his rules it will limit the use to others at the store to enable them to learn the rules as well.
3. Standard practice amongst numerous game stores and Grand tournies are to allow at least 30 days after a codex comes out before it is used to ensure all rules are learned and can be complied with.
4. The margine of error is greatly increased in a situation such as this.
These are my thoughts and concerns. Yes I am very excited about the DE codex but I also believe in the integrity of tournaments. And as such this is why I have chosen to voice my concerns. As I stated above I will not be at the tourny so the end result does not effect me but I hope that this descision is thought of carefully.
Troy
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I ditto everything Troy said ;D
To add to what Troy said, it is going to cut heavily into time during the game. I know personally I would want to see the rules for anything that is out of the norm, and having to do this multiple in a doubles tourney which generally run longer anyways will kill game play time. I am not able to go because I will be going to the same tourney Troy mentioned. If I was in attendance I personally would not have the time to look at the preview copy to get an understanding of codex.
That said I won't be there so my opinion doesn't matter just fyi ;D
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Chris and Brian are in. Dark Angels/Blood Angels combo.
Hey guys, I'm not 100% sure who you guys are so can you please send me an email? Thanks!
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1. Even with the advanced copy a player will not know all his rules in 2 weeks.
This one made me LOL, I know players who've had their 'dex 2 years and still don't know their own rules. You can't expect everyone to be up to your standards :)
Personally I have no strong feelings against this, but do believe that if I have the Toy soldiers to play the game I should be allowed to play with my rules. If there were not preview 'dexes I'd say not, but there are....
Either way, my templars will bleed with their old codex :)
Cheers,
Alan
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Yeah, I don't see much of a point in telling a player who has waited 10 years for their army book to come out that he can't use his new rules. If you've got the models, play on player. ;)
Anyways, I don't expect many Dark Eldar players in the event and I will ask each one to make sure they have a firm command over their army.
Riley can be a cheesy bastard when / if he wants to be but I know him well enough to say that I think he is a good sportsman. If he has success it won't be based solely on some cheesy rule out of a new book.
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Also, this is a doubles tournament. FUN > ALL.
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Also, this is a doubles tournament. FUN > ALL.
I agree with Ian.
Also, Steve Riley is an awesome dude so why not?
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if (codex != gamechanging && wayOP)
FUN>all
else
"its one person playing them who cares?"
besides, whats the worst they can do? ::)
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I know an easy way to solve this.
If Steve shows up with a fully painted army, he can play the new codex.
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I know an easy way to solve this.
If Steve shows up with a fully painted army, he can play the new codex.
Sorry Rich, I don't have enough time to do that.
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Like I said this is just my opinion. As I will not be there I dont really care either way. Hope everything goes well.
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I know an easy way to solve this.
If Steve shows up with a fully painted army, he can play the new codex.
Sorry Rich, I don't have enough time to do that.
I see what you both did. But I do have a fully painted army so there :P
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I know an easy way to solve this.
If Steve shows up with a fully painted army, he can play the new codex.
Sorry Rich, I don't have enough time to do that.
I see what you both did. But I do have a fully painted army so there :P
now all you gotta do is have dave paint the new stuff :P
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Also, this is a doubles tournament. FUN > ALL.
Fact!
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We've got 15 teams registered as of right now. If you have not been in touch with me or the store and plan to sign up, please do so ASAP.
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Would it be possible to post up a list of the currently 15 registered teams? It could be beneficial for those looking for partners as well as assurance that members teams are accounted for.
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We've got 15 teams registered as of right now. If you have not been in touch with me or the store and plan to sign up, please do so ASAP.
Are Kevin and I signed up?
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Would it be possible to post up a list of the currently 15 registered teams? It could be beneficial for those looking for partners as well as assurance that members teams are accounted for.
Yup. I'll post it when I get to the store tomorrow.
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We've got 15 teams registered as of right now. If you have not been in touch with me or the store and plan to sign up, please do so ASAP.
Are Kevin and I signed up?
I believe so.
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Sean MacDonlad + Eric Wittman
Steve Riley + Doug Walker
Bill Souza + Keith Bonneau
Nathan + Max (From Pandemonium)
Alan Phillips + Sean Phillips
David Goss + AJ DeFrancesco
Mike Salzman + Mark
Kevin Nolzn + Mike Do
Bryan Magnuson + Alex Moon
Jared Sequeira + John Goldrick
Brian Estano + Chris Brett
John Motta + Hans Cote
Jason Harrison + Craig Pollard
Ed Beatty + Dan Delaney
Allan Knowles + Partner
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Chase
Through powers that I have yet to understand...
Please sign up
Troy and Jeff Hobin for the doubles tourny...
Jeff will confirn shortly.
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I confirm, make it so!
I see a lot of names I recognize and havn't seen in years on the roster ;D
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Good to have you guys playing, I guess this means you are allowed to go out and play toy soldiers two weekends in a row, I wonder what that cost ya :)
Cheers,
A
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Good to have you guys playing, I guess this means you are allowed to go out and play toy soldiers two weekends in a row, I wonder what that cost ya :)
Cheers,
A
If it lands on the right week of the month - its really a no loose situation and a good sacrifice! ^^
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Gonna be missing out on this one. Grrr! Have fun all.
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I confirm, make it so!
I see a lot of names I recognize and havn't seen in years on the roster ;D
Good! Please tell all your friends. I'd love to pack the house for this event.
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Ian Mulligan + RICHAAAD BAAAAQU
Sean MacDonlad + Eric Wittman
Steve Riley + Doug Walker
Bill Souza + Keith Bonneau
Nathan + Max (From Pandemonium)
Alan Phillips + Sean Phillips
David Goss + AJ DeFrancesco
Mike Salzman + Mark
Kevin Nolzn + Mike Do
Bryan Magnuson + Alex Moon
Jared Sequeira + John Goldrick
Brian Estano + Chris Brett
John Motta + Hans Cote
Jason Harrison + Craig Pollard
Ed Beatty + Dan Delaney
Allan Knowles + Partner
Jeff Hobin + Troy Esposito
Mike Murphy + Chirs Capone
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IAN MULLIGAN AND RICHAAAD BAAAAQU
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^^^^
What that guy said.
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IAN MULLIGAN AND RICHAAAD BAAAAQU
How did I not have you guys on the list... You're literally the first second frigging post!
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If anyone is still looking for a partner, Im looking for one. I have CSM. Or hopefully I'll have enough Guard by then.
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I have eldar looking for a partner.
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Sadly I don;t know if I can get my DE dusted off and a read through the new codex in time to WYSIWYG an Army. Otherwise I would love to come down and play
-Vance
IE the guy who swore off DE and 40K a year ago until the DE got an update
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22 teams signed up. 2 spots left. If your names are not on this list it means I do not know that you're playing.
Sean MacDonlad + Eric Wittman
Steve Riley + Doug Walker
Bill Souza + Keith Bonneau
Nathan + Max (From Pandemonium)
Alan Phillips + Sean Phillips
David Goss + AJ DeFrancesco
Mike Salzman + Mark
Kevin Nolzn + Mike Do
Bryan Magnuson + Alex Moon
Jared Sequeira + John Goldrick
Brian Estano + Chris Brett
John Motta + Hans Cote
Jason Harrison + Craig Pollard
Ed Beatty + Dan Delaney
Allan Knowles + Partner
Rick James + Troy Esposito
Mike Murphy + Chirs Capone
Ian Mulligan + Richard Bourque
Eric Norris + Scott Norris
Bill Vecchio + Vin Gonzalez
Paul Gaughran + Chris Desiata
Josh Hankin + John Whalley
Largest miniature event in Battleground history, by the way. Has last years Megabattle beat by 4 people (10%) at this point! Aww yeah!
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Better make sure the AC is working that day.
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Representin' the homies!
Out of curiosity do summoned daemons use the Hq or troop slot ?
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Which type? I think the greater daemon is an HQ and the lessers do count as troops but do not take up a slot (I don't know if the greater daemon take a slot or not).
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Greater.
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By the way, my partner is Mike. Ashley won't play with me again til I have some Dark Eldar to throw down next to her Slaaneshi ladies. Mike's bringing the crons, and I'm bring the mons (daemons)!
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Greater Daemon is an HQ slot, but it doesn't count as the mandatory one, so you need another HQ.
Its in the codex, read it! :)
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Sean MacDonlad + Eric Wittman
Steve Riley + Doug Walker
Bill Souza + Keith Bonneau
Nathan + Max (From Pandemonium)
Alan Phillips + Sean Phillips
David Goss + AJ DeFrancesco
Mike Salzman + Mark
Kevin Nolzn + Mike Do
Bryan Magnuson + Alex Moon
Jared Sequeira + John Goldrick
Brian Estano + Chris Brett
John Motta + Hans Cote
Jason Harrison + Craig Pollard
Ed Beatty + Dan Delaney
Allan Knowles + Partner
Rick James + Troy Esposito
Mike Murphy + Chirs Capone
Ian Mulligan + Richard Bourque
Eric Norris + Scott Norris
Bill Vecchio + Vin Gonzalez
Paul Gaughran + Chris Desiata
Josh Hankin + John Whalley
Seth Staley + Frank
Jordan Clarke + Jeremiah Nesser
24 teams. 48 players. It's gonna be awesome.
Event is now capped.
Good luck guys!!
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Greater Daemon is an HQ slot, but it doesn't count as the mandatory one, so you need another HQ.
Its in the codex, read it! :)
just making sure :)
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Hey guys I can't wait to see the new store. I have two questions about the event.
Will we be using any of the Commander's head and Command counter rules in the mission packet? ...or just the missions with the 3 tiers of objectives?
Also, are the 'floating' force-org choices mandatory? Could both teammates have a list with no elites for example?
Thanks!
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Commanders heads will be used. Command counters... I can't remember what those are and it's really late so I'll answer tomorrow afternoon.
You only NEED to take the minimum required by each slot. You don't need to make use of the floating choices. Elites require that each player take 0 so you're cool not taking any at all.
I'll get back to you tomorrow on the Command counter thing.
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my daemons shall eat all your precious heads!!! ;D (now for the first time in full color!)
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Warhammer 40k gaming record:
Dual Lash - 0w 0d 2l
Tournaments - 0w 0d 3l
You sure about that...
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Warhammer 40k gaming record:
Dual Lash - 0w 0d 2l
Tournaments - 0w 0d 3l
You sure about that...
yes, check the updated version in 5 min
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Warhammer 40k gaming record:
Dual Lash - 0w 0d 2l
Tournaments - 0w 0d 3l
You sure about that...
This made me lol pretty hard. I'm in a big empty store at 12:30pm laughing to myself.
Well played, Troy.
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We will be making use of the Commanders Heads rules AND the Command Counter rules.
This is half the reason why I like the 2009 Adepticon rules / scenarios so much. It makes the game much more fun / dynamic.
It should be noted that the rules packet and scenarios will be modified ever-so-slightly such that they are more in line with our event. The scenarios themselves and the scoring will remain identical.
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Still being semi new and yet old to the game without a current edition rule book. Would someone mind explaining Commanders Heads Rules and Command Counter Rules please...
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They're specific to adepticon. Look at the pdf in chase's first post.
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Doug is correct.
We will be passing out a packet to each team at the beginning of the event. This packet will contain the rules specific to the event as well as all of the scenarios and score sheets for each round.
With that said, I strongly suggest players to take some time to read through the .pdf I refer to in my first post.
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It's 4 in the morning and I'm drunk, and not sure whether my partner's showing up in the morning due to some recent txts, but nevertheless, my daemons will consume you all!!! bWAHAHAHA!
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Thanks for running another great event!
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Yeah! It was awesome!
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It was a blast.
Very well run ;)
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Thank you for the event chase! and for peer pressuring me into getting my chicken at piezonis!
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It was my pleasure, gentlemen.
Keep an eye out for another doubles event soon after the new year.
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We had a lot of Fun,
A Loooonnng day for the little guy but he's already talking about next time!
Great day indeed!
Thanks!
Alan