****I reserve the right to mock everything lame due to my inherent greatness which is unquestionable****Who do you think you are, Kevin? Captain Bryan? ;)
I'm currently making a updated Codex for the Dark Angels using ideas from the interweb, others opinions, and so forth. I've have been working on it for a very long time now and would like to just submit the Codex to you guys a couple of months before the mega battle.
There is some things I wish to keep secret from the others until the actual mega battle.
If it helps any, I'm tryin to get it to look like an old tome with "aging" the pages and giving it a real leather or camal skin cover for coolness factor. It will also be complete with my current DA codex 4.0 as well as 2.0 and Angels of Death codex.
Arent there like 20pt wargear items that do the same?
I'm currently making a updated Codex for the Dark Angels using ideas from the interweb, others opinions, and so forth. I've have been working on it for a very long time now and would like to just submit the Codex to you guys a couple of months before the mega battle.
How are Primarchs veiwed on this. IF i play in the Mega Battle this year I would like to field Leman Russ as my army commander.
As cool as it is, I have no plans to allow a fan-made Codex into the Megabattle. Unfortunately it opens up a GIANT can of worms and sets a precedent.
Also, Skaven, I almost wanted to punch my monitor after reading that. Then again, I know you are just trolling as you know the burning hatred between the Thousand Sons and Wolves.
8) 8)****I reserve the right to mock everything lame due to my inherent greatness which is unquestionable****Who do you think you are, Kevin? Captain Bryan? ;)
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Dave Goss: Every point you make is Moot, sorry it happens.
What is moot? I worked pretty hard on making those DD. :'(
I even made my list using not a single made up item. As soon as my Santa buys me my possessed I'm ready to roll! ;D
So Kevin and Chase, does my Banelord get to come play?
So as the date is June 4th, are we going to have a beach landing and airborne assault table?;D
The data is close enough to provide inspiration ...
Thoughts?
Cheers,
Alan
So as the date is June 4th, are we going to have a beach landing and airborne assault table?
The data is close enough to provide inspiration ...
Thoughts?
Cheers,
Alan
So as the date is June 4th, are we going to have a beach landing and airborne assault table?
The data is close enough to provide inspiration ...
Thoughts?
Cheers,
Alan
The tables are on Derek and I couldn't be happier about that.
ok paul I want to see a catachan table, everything is forest. HAHAHAHAHA take that gun line armies of the imperium.
hey so can we post models we think would be balanced and fun if we just used our imagination?
ok paul I want to see a catachan table, everything is forest. HAHAHAHAHA take that gun line armies of the imperium.
Agent orange man, Agent Orange...
Shortly after last year's battle, there were some calls that were controversial. It was deemed prudent to let things cool off. I made some proposals to Chase that were generally well received in the aftermath of last year's battle. I don't want them slipping through cracks. Thus, I'll post them up here.
There are controversial stratagems that one side or the other might like banned. I'm not going to open up these stratagem by stratagem debates, but I would like to reduce the amount of troublesome stratagems in play. Thus, instead of allowing a given stratagem to be used once per side per table, I'd propose to play it book and go with once per side. If we have seven tables, this would be the difference between 14 flank marches from stratagem choices and 2 flank marches.
Big titans often come with minimum range restrictions on shoulder and head mounted weapons. Due to ranges being measured in 3 dimensions instead of 2 in the new 40K base rules, these range minimums effectively went away in last year's battle. However, the new 40K base rules also define line of sight as being taken from the pivot point of the weapon, not from the nozzle. Also, weapons cannot be elevated or depressed more than 45 degrees off horizontal. If the new codex is used properly and fully, something similar to the minimum range circle will occur in all titans. None of them will be able to target units hanging around near their toes. Again, I'd like to see it played by book. Titan and d-template advantage meant a lot last year, and I don't want the big walkers to be unduly unbalancing.
The Disruptor Beacon is one of four "Front Line Assets" -- the others being Null Field Generator, Supreme Headquarters and Shield Generator -- that are represented by a marker placed in the owner's deployment area. There is a maximum size of four inches for these markers. Last year there was a special rule that prevented one from placing Disruptor Beacons immediately near cover. This was done in part because there was no minimum size for the markers, thus one could in principle put a tiny marker somewhere implausible. As we now have a good deal of time to make markers, I'd propose that we have a minimum size for markers rather than a rule to prevent placement near cover. I'd suggest the monstrous creature base size as a good minimum marker size.
Many have noted an escalation in use of big models. Some have voiced opinions that such escalation should be stopped. Last year we had a good healthy number of people with no super heavy or gargantuan models, a good healthy number of people with one or two bane blades or their point equivalents, and we had four people who spent every single point on big models.
I can see how each style of play can be fun. Having twice in a row been deployed opposite heavy walkers I wasn't prepared to fight, I'll suggest being surprised by a mismatch isn't always fun. We might want to discourage mismatches. I'd like to see tables available for all three styles of play. If there are fluff reasons as well as game balance reasons for different table rules, so much the better. I fit in the middle category, with one 'counts as' Eldar Scorpion. I'd like to play with like minded opponents. I don't begrudge the all heavy players their opportunity to deploy the big models, but might they pick on people their own size?
That's about it for the moment. I do sympathize with Chase's desire to minimize custom rules and units.
Shortly after last year's battle, there were some calls that were controversial. It was deemed prudent to let things cool off. I made some proposals to Chase that were generally well received in the aftermath of last year's battle. I don't want them slipping through cracks. Thus, I'll post them up here.I agree very much with this. As far as the min range for titans it would probably be best to measure from the feet like Chase said is a possibility otherwise people might customize titans to lean over so they can shoot closer to their feet.
There are controversial stratagems that one side or the other might like banned. I'm not going to open up these stratagem by stratagem debates, but I would like to reduce the amount of troublesome stratagems in play. Thus, instead of allowing a given stratagem to be used once per side per table, I'd propose to play it book and go with once per side. If we have seven tables, this would be the difference between 14 flank marches from stratagem choices and 2 flank marches.
Big titans often come with minimum range restrictions on shoulder and head mounted weapons. Due to ranges being measured in 3 dimensions instead of 2 in the new 40K base rules, these range minimums effectively went away in last year's battle. However, the new 40K base rules also define line of sight as being taken from the pivot point of the weapon, not from the nozzle. Also, weapons cannot be elevated or depressed more than 45 degrees off horizontal. If the new codex is used properly and fully, something similar to the minimum range circle will occur in all titans. None of them will be able to target units hanging around near their toes. Again, I'd like to see it played by book. Titan and d-template advantage meant a lot last year, and I don't want the big walkers to be unduly unbalancing.
The Disruptor Beacon is one of four "Front Line Assets" -- the others being Null Field Generator, Supreme Headquarters and Shield Generator -- that are represented by a marker placed in the owner's deployment area. There is a maximum size of four inches for these markers. Last year there was a special rule that prevented one from placing Disruptor Beacons immediately near cover. This was done in part because there was no minimum size for the markers, thus one could in principle put a tiny marker somewhere implausible. As we now have a good deal of time to make markers, I'd propose that we have a minimum size for markers rather than a rule to prevent placement near cover. I'd suggest the monstrous creature base size as a good minimum marker size.
Many have noted an escalation in use of big models. Some have voiced opinions that such escalation should be stopped. Last year we had a good healthy number of people with no super heavy or gargantuan models, a good healthy number of people with one or two bane blades or their point equivalents, and we had four people who spent every single point on big models.
I can see how each style of play can be fun. Having twice in a row been deployed opposite heavy walkers I wasn't prepared to fight, I'll suggest being surprised by a mismatch isn't always fun. We might want to discourage mismatches. I'd like to see tables available for all three styles of play. If there are fluff reasons as well as game balance reasons for different table rules, so much the better. I fit in the middle category, with one 'counts as' Eldar Scorpion. I'd like to play with like minded opponents. I don't begrudge the all heavy players their opportunity to deploy the big models, but might they pick on people their own size?
That's about it for the moment. I do sympathize with Chase's desire to minimize custom rules and units.
I agree very much with this. As far as the min range for titans it would probably be best to measure from the feet like Chase said is a possibility otherwise people might customize titans to lean over so they can shoot closer to their feet.
I was under the impression that this thread was all about deciding if a custom model/questionable paint job/questionable scratch build was going to be allowed to enter the megabattle.
It seems to have evolved into questions of made up codices and fan made rules from the internet.
Hmm.
I think it's important to note that the presence of the other thread does not open up the entire internet as a resource for datasheets. We want to be extremely strict about everything we allow, especially in terms of datasheets. It is strongly recommended that each player use datasheets presented in the Apoc book, Apoc Reload, or Imperial Armour books. In extremely rare cases, like Mike Salzmans Aqua Marine Titans, custom datasheets might be required and permitted. Way more than half the reason why this has been allowed in the past is because his models are badass.
There is a very fine line between allowing things that seem appropriate and "cool" and allowing things that make the game seem silly or stupid. Help me help everyone and please try to respect that.
I agree very much with this. As far as the min range for titans it would probably be best to measure from the feet like Chase said is a possibility otherwise people might customize titans to lean over so they can shoot closer to their feet.
I'd be content with measuring titan's range from their feet.
We could use 5th edition rules.
Measure distances from the gun.
Use TLOS.
Problem solved.
Now for the explanation as to why it is solved:
TLOS basically forces the gun to be aimed downward. An emperor titan / warlord cannot be made to be leaning over and look "badass" or "cool" So the only real way it can aim is slightly downward or straight forward. We allow for the 45 degree angle swivel up and down and suddenly the rules resolve themselves.
We can do the math if you like but it's pretty obvious without trig to know you won't be able to shoot at the titans feet with carapace weapons by the rules as written.
Just make sure you have them based and painted. Derek Likes to see fully painted armies in his mega battles.
We can do the math if you like but it's pretty obvious without trig to know you won't be able to shoot at the titans feet with carapace weapons by the rules as written.
We can do the math if you like but it's pretty obvious without trig to know you won't be able to shoot at the titans feet with carapace weapons by the rules as written.
I would like to use a data sheet from the bell of of lost souls called the
Necron Aspis it includes the Necron Obelisk which has been used in Mega Battles
before and which has a Data sheet on the Games workshop web site.
Thanks
Dave
Deep breath.... Sigh....
Oh, the Megabattle....
Why do I do this to myself?
Not to worry. Now that I'm in charge, things will be a lot smoother.
When can I get a copy of the table building schedule? ;)
OK. The rest of you. Bad ass model with no rules? We can handle that. Bad ass rules with no model? Not so much.
As of right this minute, it seems like a bunch of people think Primarchs, although cool, probably shouldn't be involved in the Megabattle. I'm leaving this up to Paul and Kevin to discuss in the coming months seeing as I barely know what a Primarch is.
As of right this minute, it seems like a bunch of people think Primarchs, although cool, probably shouldn't be involved in the Megabattle. I'm leaving this up to Paul and Kevin to discuss in the coming months seeing as I barely know what a Primarch is.
I believe chase said Primarchs are not a good idea and most of us dont want to use them.
i think that if anyone wants to bring a model that has no official stats/rules, he should do what mirrorlord did and post a link to the model in questions thread here, and then people can scrutinize it until it is approvable.
My bad. While I'm finishing up my black legion, according to my books, there is 13 eldar in the black legion. Can I use them as eldar or chosen models? Since I am trying to have some of everything the black legion has. Except abbadon who I gave up fighting over already.
As of right this minute, it seems like a bunch of people think Primarchs, although cool, probably shouldn't be involved in the Megabattle. I'm leaving this up to Paul and Kevin to discuss in the coming months seeing as I barely know what a Primarch is.
The Primarchs are to the Emperor as the 12 Apostles are to Jesus. They have been dead or missing for centuries. While there are legends that some of them might return, I would think if they didn't return for the 13th Black Crusade, the BG mega battle would have to have a very high octane story line in order for it to be vaguely believable.
i second thatThe Primarchs are to the Emperor as the 12 Apostles are to Jesus. They have been dead or missing for centuries. While there are legends that some of them might return, I would think if they didn't return for the 13th Black Crusade, the BG mega battle would have to have a very high octane story line in order for it to be vaguely believable.
I play with little plastic men and cardboard armored robots that go pew pew. I have little issues suspending disbelief.
lolThe Primarchs are to the Emperor as the 12 Apostles are to Jesus. They have been dead or missing for centuries. While there are legends that some of them might return, I would think if they didn't return for the 13th Black Crusade, the BG mega battle would have to have a very high octane story line in order for it to be vaguely believable.
I play with little plastic men and cardboard armored robots that go pew pew. I have little issues suspending disbelief.
The Primarchs are to the Emperor as the 12 Apostles are to Jesus. They have been dead or missing for centuries. While there are legends that some of them might return, I would think if they didn't return for the 13th Black Crusade, the BG mega battle would have to have a very high octane story line in order for it to be vaguely believable.
I play with little plastic men and cardboard armored robots that go pew pew. I have little issues suspending disbelief.
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Against Primarchs
that is all
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In all my time playing this game, I've seen some sights. I've seen flesh tone daemonettes and female space marines.
End of times Primarchs would be welcome if faced with the contents of the prior sentence again.
Whats nice about the Primarchs is the idea that it seems to become community policed at this point. I would like to see more scratch builds up here now. What say you, modelers of the damned?
... and female space marines.
...Thus, we have rules about hamster ball and toilet tube models...And frisbees... ::)
Can we consider all these GW data sheets canon, usable without being blessed on this thread?
The Bolter and Chainsword forum has a thread that attempts to list all "official" data sheets and give the source. I don't know that it is current and complete, but it could be helpful if anyone wants to know where to find a copy of a given data sheet or get an idea what is available for a given army.
http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/index.php?showtopic=193307&st=0&p=2299467&#entry2299467
Same thing would go then for Space Marines using Imperial Guard Tanks for the Data Sheets.
What I mean is that if a Space Marine player wanted to bring a Baneblade.Fluff wise I don't think this would work without allies because baneblades are equal to a tank company in the IG. You can look it up on the page before baneblade in the original apoc book, also you can note that in the link the baneblades are listed under IG not general forces of the Imperium.
"Now as to whether or not the chaos marines would use an imperial guard super heavy, even if its a renegade one? I dunno." ---- That was the statment it was in regards to.
http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/index.php?showtopic=193307&st=0&p=2299467&#entry2299467
Chaos is truly daemons, marines and renegades. But chaos for the megabattle is all the "bad guys" so what's the huge deal about chaos marines getting an effective super heavy?
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Actually, good thing you brought this up in fact.
I think that since this is the custom model forum it would fit well in here. Anyone planning on taking an asset that makes use of a counter should plan to have that approved also. Correct me if I'm wrong in this assumption. Approval would help to cut down on any of the disagreements upon what is a valid representation of a given asset.
For tunnels can I use diglets?
For tunnels can I use diglets?
I had to google what a Diglett was.
Anyways, Goss. If you win the 40k singles I *MIGHT* consider you using some sort of stupid Diglett thing if you end up with the Tunnels asset.
I'll work on getting some pics up - haven't got any of them painted yet, but given how much they go for these days you can bet I'll spend some serious time on them. Not liable to see others of their ilk anytime soon!
I was under the impression they happened when...
Eh, low hanging fruit and all that :P.
A Valkyrie with Space Marines inside? Hrm. What sort of Space Marines?
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I love how people sperg over one someone using a valkyrie with space marines, but when every [insert insulting name here]-bag space marine player decides its ok to use baneblades thats completely fine? If this is the case I guess eldar should have infantry platoons, or orks getting chaos land raiders. Why can't anyone just use what is in/for their own codex and be happy? ::)
You feel what Im sayin?
I wasnt saying you jfood. But there are so many people who I hear making a space marine, blood angels, or space wolf army and they have 500 points left so they just say "Oh, and ill throw in a baneblade". It makes almost no sense why they feel this is fine. I get that the imperium sticks together, but only the inquisition just grabs baneblades out of guardsmen's hands and fields them. Its not like a wolf guard just comes to terra and says "Hey Im a wolf guard, give me that baneblade".
You feel what Im sayin?
Because clearly, they decided to dismantle them for absolutely no reason after the Heresy.
I love the fucking megabattle. Have fun, kids.
A Valkyrie with Space Marines inside? Hrm. What sort of Space Marines?
Really skinny ones that are wearing flak armor and use las weaponry.
I love the fucking megabattle. Have fun, kids.
I love the fucking megabattle. Have fun, kids.
I'm sorry, but why do you even follow these posts if that's all you've got to
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I love how people sperg over one someone using a valkyrie with space marines, but when every [insert insulting name here]-bag space marine player decides its ok to use baneblades thats completely fine? If this is the case I guess eldar should have infantry platoons, or orks getting chaos land raiders. Why can't anyone just use what is in/for their own codex and be happy? ::)
Doug,
it was legal last year not because someone ok'd the use of it in that way. It was legal because of the way that the Grey knights codex worked with the new imperial guard codex.
Doug,
it was legal last year not because someone ok'd the use of it in that way. It was legal because of the way that the Grey knights codex worked with the new imperial guard codex.
I'm not 100% sure that the new grey knight codex will be out by the mega battle, but if it is that is the one you will have to use if you want to field an inquisitor again. The mini you use is acceptable but please post a picture of it for general viewing or bring it down to the store so someone can offically sign off on it.
and by "him" i mean Perturabo.
The Nick Lowe Model
WS BS S T Wo I A Ld
10 10 10 10 ∞ 10 the amount of seconds one 12
of his conversations can go for
(even by himself)
Unit Type
Infantry (Troll)
Wargear
His Words
Special Rules
Independent Character,Fearless,Furious Charge,Stubborn,Feel No Pain,Drive too fast in a school zone
Looks kinda like this
http://i520.photobucket.com/albums/w327/derdrex116/37652_416098037193_707852193_4740407_4805101_n.jpg (http://i520.photobucket.com/albums/w327/derdrex116/37652_416098037193_707852193_4740407_4805101_n.jpg)
The Nick Lowe Model
WS BS S T Wo I A Ld
10 10 10 10 ∞ 10 the amount of seconds one 12
of his conversations can go for
(even by himself)
Unit Type
Infantry (Troll)
Wargear
His Words
Special Rules
Independent Character,Fearless,Furious Charge,Stubborn,Feel No Pain
The Nick Lowe Model
WS BS S T Wo I A Ld
10 10 10 10 ∞ 10 the amount of seconds one 12
of his conversations can go for
(even by himself)
Unit Type
Infantry (Troll)
Wargear
His Words
Special Rules
Independent Character,Fearless,Furious Charge,Stubborn,Feel No Pain
Looks kinda like this
http://i520.photobucket.com/albums/w327/derdrex116/37652_416098037193_707852193_4740407_4805101_n.jpg (http://i520.photobucket.com/albums/w327/derdrex116/37652_416098037193_707852193_4740407_4805101_n.jpg)
Couldn't you theoretically kill this with sweeping advance some insane luck by using a eldar avatar and Nightbringer?Sure, but it's easier to use Boon of Mutation / Gift of Chaos. A rolled 6 on that Toughness test, Chaos Spawn! :D
Going forward, I want constructive posts in this thread only.
Others will be deleted.
Couldn't you theoretically kill this with sweeping advance some insane luck by using a eldar avatar and Nightbringer?Technically no, since he's Fearless. He might fail his saves from taking Fearless saves, but since he's got infinite wounds, I don't see that slowing it down much. However, a single Str D weapon would kill him, and since he hasn't got an Invul Save, it'd be the quickest way. ;)
( Avatars I6 would be able to sweep the I10 If rolled well )
People seem to think its a good way to slow down my army.
Doug, I hate to burst your bubble but the current rumors (read 99% truth) is that Grey Knights will not have access to the Valkyrie's. Instead they will have access to the Stormraven Gunships.
Also who rode their space marines into battle on Valkyries last year?
Rob Simms.
Rob Simms.
One m you cockmongrel.
It'll give all you good tacticians a chance to work those cunning brains of your.
I'm talking about squads of titans named hammer. MC Hammer is the squad leader.
Does the MC Hammer squad leader in fact have a MC hammer= Master Crafted hammer? Cuz that would in and of itself be too legit to quit.
Special Rule:
Can't touch this:
Units in squad gain Hit and Run special rule as long as squad leader is on the table.
Are you guys talking about squads with Titan hammers?
Special Rule:Special Rule:
Can't touch this:
Units in squad gain Hit and Run special rule as long as squad leader is on the table.
Special Rule: Stop, Hammer time.
All models equipped with thunderhammers may not move this turn but are immune to all damage from any source (as they "break it down").
Just too bump it back to the top of the forum for a few days.
And a friendly reminder... All players new and old. Anyone planning on using a non- GW or non- forgeworld model in this event needs to have it approved. Please keep this in mind, any units that are brought and not approved with be subject to judgement and possible exclusion. Sorry, its been stated numerous times already guys.
is there a deadline for when a model can be aproved?Just too bump it back to the top of the forum for a few days.
And a friendly reminder... All players new and old. Anyone planning on using a non- GW or non- forgeworld model in this event needs to have it approved. Please keep this in mind, any units that are brought and not approved with be subject to judgement and possible exclusion. Sorry, its been stated numerous times already guys.
Read this.
I would like to submit BB - THE BOTTLEBOT 5000 ORK GARGANT - for approval
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a167/Rocksmacker/downsize-1.jpg)
few questions about it though...
the terminators are all essentially marked?
And for the key ability, would every movement done in such a way result in a dangerous terrain test or just if it is attempted to exit a combat situation?
If its always a Dangerous terrain test I see no issue with the idea myself.
... I recently learned that you seem to be able to take invulnerable saves vs dangerous terrain tests.Not only seem to be able, but one is in fact able to attempt invuln saves vs failed dangerous terrain tests.
Yes, I remember Alan talking about how his valks could be used with those abilities at the codex cost to field them. Also, there was some insane sniper valk with an HQ in it or something.
I guess we would have to get a running tally on the "codex" units that would gain the flyer rule before we went and added it to the mega battle. My fear would be players not expecting the "insert name here" to suddenly go from hover to flight and take off on them. I say this with the new players in mind, ones that are not regulars to the forums and may not read them prior to joining the mega battle.
Anyone else have an Idea on how to improve the Black Titan?
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=413977430618&set=a.413974000618.212900.68808440618 (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=413977430618&set=a.413974000618.212900.68808440618)
Hand made titans are way better than armorcast.
Last megabattle he killed a a ton of eldar special characters, you should mount their heads at its feet.
Mike D has given me the remains of his emperor and I plan on resurrecting it and turning it into the baddest titan on the planet. I plan on having some eldar and tau skulls to make a belt like thing to hang my chaos banner around his waist. Anyone else have an Idea on how to improve the Black Titan?
I'll try to get a new pic up, but until then there's one on the Battleground page already, under "videos and pictures", it's the 5th or 6th pic, (depending on if you count the video link). www.battlegroundgames.com/community_pictures_megabattle2008.html
I can face palm hard enough to unread your posts dave.
this is actually really interesting i would like to see this fielded
Dave Goss's [working title] Ego Marine supremus:
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Possible weapon idea: The Nova Weapon SystemI like it. Personally, I've wondered why Terminators don't get more access to more Heavy Weapon options. With the right point costs, I think it can be a very balanced ability. Plus, I think more people would be tempted to take non-Assault Terminators more often.
Basically a plasma cannon on a terminator. The model itself is easy enough.
Game play; Basic termie with a plasma cannon with slightly weaker stats. It'd follow all the rules for regular plasma weapons.
Advantages: More powerful heavy weapon that can move and shoot.
Disadvantages: point cost per model.
ideas?
~Doug
See deathwatch. Terminatour armour can NOT utilize plasma weaponry because if it overhears it compromises the entire structure of the armour. That's why chaos terminators use combi plasma and hold most stuff in their hands. Heavy weapons are attatched to the armour itself.
I suppose that answers why Plasma weapons can't be used, but what about other energy weapons? I don't know what the fluff behind Deathwatch is, but is it clear why other energy type weapons aren't used?See deathwatch. Terminatour armour can NOT utilize plasma weaponry because if it overhears it compromises the entire structure of the armour. That's why chaos terminators use combi plasma and hold most stuff in their hands. Heavy weapons are attatched to the armour itself.
I have to go with Goss on this one. That is why Termies cannot use other heavy weapons as well and the only ones that they can use (cyclone missile, assault cannon) do not need to integrated into the armor, rather they need to only be mounted.
Mainly because energy weapons need a energy source. To comprimise the integrity of Terminator armor to house a energy source is basically taking away what the terminator armor was designed for. Plus to house the energy source you are then taking away from the functionality of the suit.
Reasons for this are power armor marines keep the oversized powersourc on there backs. This is not an option for the already oversized terminator.
Now back to my awesome idea for the "ego marine" There is no fluff saying there isn't a space marine character with tons of charisma and mojo about him.Dude, that's because fluff wise, every Space Marine thinks he's got tons of Charisma and Mojo about him... :P
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5260/5574784431_45849f839f.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/22812511@N05/5574784431/)Doom Kitty (http://www.flickr.com/photos/22812511@N05/5574784431/) by cryptoron (http://www.flickr.com/people/22812511@N05/), on Flickr
My submission.
Now back to my awesome idea for the "ego marine" There is no fluff saying there isn't a space marine character with tons of charisma and mojo about him.Dude, that's because fluff wise, every Space Marine thinks he's got tons of Charisma and Mojo about him... :P
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5260/5574784431_45849f839f.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/22812511@N05/5574784431/)Doom Kitty (http://www.flickr.com/photos/22812511@N05/5574784431/) by cryptoron (http://www.flickr.com/people/22812511@N05/), on Flickr
My submission.
Hey Ron
When does codex space kitty come out?
will it be out for the mega battle.Ha Ha Ha.
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!The model looks unique, but the stats and rules for it are almost exactly the same as a Warhound Titan. I'd say if you can find the model (or make something just as good), I'd like to see this allowed and fielded.
TAU TITAN BITCHES!!!
U MUST APPROVE OR AT LEAST FOR NEXT YEAR!!!!
http://www.warseer.com/gallery/data/500/XV101datasheetjpg.jpg
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TAU TITAN BITCHES!!!
U MUST APPROVE OR AT LEAST FOR NEXT YEAR!!!!
http://www.warseer.com/gallery/data/500/XV101datasheetjpg.jpg
Hey Ron
When does codex space kitty come out?
will it be out for the mega battle.Ha Ha Ha.
It's still a work in progress...(http://www.polyticks.com/photo/hikitty.jpg)
Where are the armour values?YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TAU TITAN BITCHES!!!
U MUST APPROVE OR AT LEAST FOR NEXT YEAR!!!!
http://www.warseer.com/gallery/data/500/XV101datasheetjpg.jpg
It's like the essence of warseer made flesh!
Which is to say it's pretty awful.
It seems to be based strongly on the Warhound data sheet. I'd suggest 14, 13, 12.Where are the armour values?YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TAU TITAN BITCHES!!!
U MUST APPROVE OR AT LEAST FOR NEXT YEAR!!!!
http://www.warseer.com/gallery/data/500/XV101datasheetjpg.jpg
It's like the essence of warseer made flesh!
Which is to say it's pretty awful.
Chase and I were talking today about Megabattle, and he told me of An'ggrath. Anyone have a stat sheet for him for curiosity's sake? (We think it may be in Imperial Armor 7.) Oh, and the big Nurgle daemon too. :)
http://www.tralfazsolutions.com/MegaBattle/datasheetEldarWarlockTitan.pdf
Approve this please and thank you!
Let me know if you need more specifics.No, but thank you! I just had to know, and they're both awesome. Skabbeithrax is hilarious, T9 and 10 wounds. *shakes head*
Ok so I did a bit of spearhead research as far as the megabattle is concerned alot of the rules about set up and force org charts dosent matter. In most ways it appears to be 17 generic datasheets which all share some common bonuses and restrictions. with 5 minutes work they can be turned into effective general datasheets that could go a long way to helping the less well loved armies have some options.
Ok so I did a bit of spearhead research as far as the megabattle is concerned alot of the rules about set up and force org charts dosent matter. In most ways it appears to be 17 generic datasheets which all share some common bonuses and restrictions. with 5 minutes work they can be turned into effective general datasheets that could go a long way to helping the less well loved armies have some options.
#1 in essence each data sheet requires a number of units all from the same entry in the same codex all land raiders all russes, all ork killakans exc. though they can have diffrent weapons and gear they have to be the same unit entry.
#2 Each spearhead counts as a single unit for deployment and reserves rolls. (basicly the same as datasheets)
#3 all spearheads gain one special power. As long as atleast two vehicles from the same spearhead. other than walkers are within 4 inches of each other at the start of the shooting phase may fire one additional weapon if they moved at cruiseing speed. and that weapon can be fired at a diffrent target. (Basicly they all get power of the mechine spirit if they move at cruiseing speed)
#3b Walkers and monsterous creatures are allowed to fire one weapon after running.
Other than the data sheet like deployment and the one special rule granting them additional shooting they are just generic data sheets.
Example Spearhead
Tank Hunter Spearhead
60 points + models
Requires 3 tanks or walkers from the same unit entry
all the vehicles in the spearhead count as one unit for deployment and reserves rules. (the general data sheet rule)
all the vehicles in the spearhead gain the ability to shoot one extra weapon when moveing at cruiseing speeds or in the case of walkers may fire one weapon after running. This weapon may be fired at a diffrent target than the other weapons.
All the vehicles in this spearhead gain the tank hunter universal special rule.
over all I think that even if we decide to drop the special shooting rules from the spearheads they are worth there points and are no more complex to add to the mega battle than any custom data sheet save that the work and values have already been worked out for us.
So I decided I wanted to have a special character lead my space marines and no one's better qualified than......
Steve D!
That's right, I'm gonna field a Steve D. special character. No joke. Here's the rules, is he kosher?
Does the rule about no named character being fielded twice apply if one instance of the named character is a player? Would this principle also apply to Bryan and the Bryan Marine?
So I decided I wanted to have a special character lead my space marines and no one's better qualified than......I like it! :D
Steve D!
That's right, I'm gonna field a Steve D. special character. No joke. Here's the rules, is he kosher?
Steve D: 250 points
WS BS S T W I A Ld Sv
6 5 4 4 4 5 4 10 2+/4+
Wargear:
Terminator Armour
Master Crafted Chainfist
Combi Plasma
Hellfire rounds
Iron Halo
Special Rules
Eternal Warrior, Chapter Tactics, Combat Tactics, And They Shall Know no Fear, Independent Character
Chapter Tactics: If you include Steve D., then all units in your army exchange the Combat Tactics special rule for the Stubborn special rule.
Well if you gonna do that then I need to make a marine about myself then!
Rick James: 275 points
WS BS S T W I A Ld Sv
6 4 5 4 4 5 4 10 2+/4+
Wargear:
Artificer Armor
Master Crafted Relic Blade
Combi Melta
Iron Halo
Special Rules
Eternal Warrior, Chapter Tactics, Combat Tactics, And They Shall Know no Fear, Independent Character. 'Sperg of the Ancients
Chapter Tactics: If Rick James is included in an army, units may exchange combat tactics for Furious Charge
'Sperg of the Ancients: At the beginning of players turn, roll 1d6. He and any units he attached to gain the follow
1-2: Unit is considered to be under the Rage USR
3-4: Unit is considered to be under the Relentless USR
5-6: Unit is considered to be under the Stubborn USR
Let's avoid custom characters.
Thank you, Chase, that answers my questions. I'll have to start doing some serious maths.
• We discourage players fielding models from multiple codices.
Have people used Armorcast Models in past Megabattles before? I didn't think there'd be any issues with using them, but just wanted to be sure they were okay.
Really? I thought they were from Forge World? Unless they're one in the same thing (which I didn't think they were), I may be confusing two different names then.Have people used Armorcast Models in past Megabattles before? I didn't think there'd be any issues with using them, but just wanted to be sure they were okay.
I'm pretty sure Rob's models are Armourcast. He's been playing them in the mega battles all along. If there is any doubt, you can bring em in and get them approved. I seriously doubt you'd have problems.
Really? I thought they were from Forge World? Unless they're one in the same thing (which I didn't think they were), I may be confusing two different names then.
Otherwise the popcorn bucket defense laser is a go!
Seeing as how Disorder has at my reckoning 8ish titans and we poor orderplayers have maybe some baneblades, I submit this, the Mobile Strength Steve D Platform!
400 points. Armor 10 All around. 48" Strength D Weapon.
(http://www2.picturepush.com/photo/a/5592025/220/5592025.jpg) (http://picturepush.com/public/5592025)
Steve, if this bothers you i'll kill the post.
8 titans, what gave you that idea? ;)
8 titans, what gave you that idea? ;)
Nick's Emperor, Sim's 4, Young Mace's Wooden warhound. A banelord, and ?? Stompas.
I've heard reports of a partridge in a pear tree...
Tables will be available for at least the 3 styles of play you mention, Bob. That's a promise.
Tables will be available for at least the 3 styles of play you mention, Bob. That's a promise.
How is this working now?
Is the daemon princess from rapetopia 12?
Is the daemon princess from rapetopia 12?
Nope. She's the Urban Legend Sophie from Reaper Miniatures.
http://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/sophie/latest/01418
If you need a few more Sophies, let me know.
If you need a few more Sophies, let me know.What I'll need eventually are dancing girls. I'll have four of them around Sophie here, and remove them as wound tokens.
I'm currently moving. I have a few dancing girls. I'll see if I can find them.If you need a few more Sophies, let me know.What I'll need eventually are dancing girls. I'll have four of them around Sophie here, and remove them as wound tokens.
I'm currently moving. I have a few dancing girls. I'll see if I can find them.If you need a few more Sophies, let me know.What I'll need eventually are dancing girls. I'll have four of them around Sophie here, and remove them as wound tokens.
I'm currently moving. I have a few dancing girls. I'll see if I can find them.If you need a few more Sophies, let me know.What I'll need eventually are dancing girls. I'll have four of them around Sophie here, and remove them as wound tokens.
This is the single greatest post in Battleground history.
While my vote holds no water, I would seriously discourage using the Sophie models. I know with Slaanesh comes the thought of doing all sorts of whacky perverted stuff but keep em as thoughts. I find the usage of models like that creepy and actually bad for the hobby.
Feel free to do what you want of course but that won't prevent people from feeling awkward around such models. I know I'm not alone in this feeling.
While my vote holds no water, I would seriously discourage using the Sophie models. I know with Slaanesh comes the thought of doing all sorts of whacky perverted stuff but keep em as thoughts. I find the usage of models like that creepy and actually bad for the hobby.
Feel free to do what you want of course but that won't prevent people from feeling awkward around such models. I know I'm not alone in this feeling.
Rich, you've got some issues to work out there mate.
Give her a sports bra instead of tassles and that'll stop Rich trying to break out the ones whenever he looks at it.
Less arguing, more vulvas.
There are two ways of selling any flavor of fiction: violence and sex. 40K wallows in violence in the extreme. In Slannesh, you get a bit of sex. I personally find it amusing whenever anyone who wallows gratuitously in violence, death, immorality, disease, sorcery and blood gets prudish with the sex. White skinned feminine models are cool, but an attempt to use vaguely realistic skin tones is disturbing enough to cause loss of sanity points? No 40K player ought to be rejecting an aspect of the game for reasons that it leads people astray morally. This would be the ultimate hypocrisy. 40K fluff is built on a solid foundation of gratuitous violence and immorality.
I personally find violence more problematic than sex. The story line behind my Ladies of the Night was created to a great degree to avoid the immorality associated with embracing GW plot lines. The reason my summoned infantry have realistic skin tones is to emphasize that they are more human and less vile. This does get me in trouble with fluff nazi. Does everyone have to be vile?
Like Rich, I am somewhat disturbed by some aspects of the game, but I feel it wrong to start crusades to make sure other people whose tastes differ from mine can't enjoy the game.
One of my Sophies is a 01406, identical to Urban Legend except for a bikini top. Ben, if your Sophie gets declined for reason of prudishness, I can lend you a PG rated Sophie. (She still has a sword. She can't get a G rating cause she is too violent.) I don't see anything problematic with your work in progress, though you could possibly be more lavish with your green stuff.
This assumes I can find Miss 01406. She may be hanging out with those playing hard to get dancing girls.(http://www.reapermini.com/graphics/gallery/4/01406_G.jpg)
http://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/sophie/latest/01406 (http://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/sophie/latest/01406)
In the Grim Darkness of the Far Future, there is only War. Not sex.
The themes of violence and war in this game is more acceptable because we're making war on imaginary aliens, robots, and demons.
Putting flesh colored, mostly-nude looking women on the tabletop in public events of this nature wouldn't be appropriate.
I'm currently moving. I have a few dancing girls. I'll see if I can find them.If you need a few more Sophies, let me know.What I'll need eventually are dancing girls. I'll have four of them around Sophie here, and remove them as wound tokens.
In the Grim Darkness of the Far Future, there is only War. Not sex.
The themes of violence and war in this game is more acceptable because we're making war on imaginary aliens, robots, and demons.
Putting flesh colored, mostly-nude looking women on the tabletop in public events of this nature wouldn't be appropriate.
It's important to have facts first. Slaanesh is about sensation and violating mores. Slaanesh says yes when others say no, and his trap is followers are driven to ever-greater extremes because their sensations become dull to old experiences. The appearance of Slaanesh and his daemons is often that of irresistible physical perfection.
If my Fiends and Greater Daemons of Slaanesh make anyone feel uncomfortable in the pants, please leave appropriate coverings behind the counter in Plainville. The mutant hooker from Total Recall has nothing on those models.
If my Fiends and Greater Daemons of Slaanesh make anyone feel uncomfortable in the pants, please leave appropriate coverings behind the counter in Plainville. The mutant hooker from Total Recall has nothing on those models.
I hope Rich gives his titan a dick-claw now.
What, that the Fiends and Greater Daemons have nothing on the mutant hooker from Total Recall?If my Fiends and Greater Daemons of Slaanesh make anyone feel uncomfortable in the pants, please leave appropriate coverings behind the counter in Plainville. The mutant hooker from Total Recall has nothing on those models.
That's a red herring argument. Just saying.
It's important to have facts first. Slaanesh is about sensation and violating mores. Slaanesh says yes when others say no, and his trap is followers are driven to ever-greater extremes because their sensations become dull to old experiences. The appearance of Slaanesh and his daemons is often that of irresistible physical perfection.
I am confused. have you made this up because you think this is what it is suppose to be or just read some fanfic that gives you this idea.
Slaanesh is the God of hedonism and excess. This DOES NOT MEAN EVERYTHING IS NEKKID!
So the above interpretation is that nude is entirely excluded from any definition of beauty or physical perfection. I disagree.
An official ruling would end what has become complete silliness.
An official ruling would end what has become complete silliness.
If you paint it up to the quality of the models I saw at the painting social, Ben, it should be fine. Naked chick models are okay so long as the user has taken time and put in effort to make it clear what it is.
Basically, you can use it if it doesn't look super tacky. I trust your judgement.
Slapping down a fleshtoned naked chick on a 40k base is a lot different than taking the time to paint up a decent looking "take" on a Demon Lord of Slaanesh (that happens to be a naked chick on a 40k base).
An official ruling would end what has become complete silliness.
If you paint it up to the quality of the models I saw at the painting social, Ben, it should be fine. Naked chick models are okay so long as the user has taken time and put in effort to make it clear what it is.
Basically, you can use it if it doesn't look super tacky. I trust your judgement.
Slapping down a fleshtoned naked chick on a 40k base is a lot different than taking the time to paint up a decent looking "take" on a Demon Lord of Slaanesh (that happens to be a naked chick on a 40k base).
All I read was something about slapping fleshtoned naked chicks...bowwchikkawowow!
An official ruling would end what has become complete silliness.
If you paint it up to the quality of the models I saw at the painting social, Ben, it should be fine. Naked chick models are okay so long as the user has taken time and put in effort to make it clear what it is.
Basically, you can use it if it doesn't look super tacky. I trust your judgement.
Slapping down a fleshtoned naked chick on a 40k base is a lot different than taking the time to paint up a decent looking "take" on a Demon Lord of Slaanesh (that happens to be a naked chick on a 40k base).
All I read was something about slapping fleshtoned naked chicks...bowwchikkawowow!
Where's the like button?
Wow Paul....ok well nedm is back thanks to meowlta guns and muti-meowlta get with the time brosephstalin.....
Wow Paul....ok well nedm is back thanks to meowlta guns and muti-meowlta get with the time brosephstalin.....
I'm gonna bring back Picard.
Do you need some gay fuel to drink then you can go back in time with me as you read you brake up letter as Brian peppers lol interanets on your face....deputy dog..you the man now dog!
Paul, I'll do to you what BP did to honesty. >:( <---- angry pirate face
We should play a huge game of 40k now that they've made Apocalypse. Not just a 3v3 or something. Make it close to 20v20. Some mega battle! Maybe Steve D's hotel will host it.
We should play a huge game of 40k now that they've made Apocalypse. Not just a 3v3 or something. Make it close to 20v20. Some mega battle! Maybe Steve D's hotel will host it.
WHOA! lets make it interesting buddy, how about every single person brings a 4000 point army to this battle of mega proportions?
Two questions:
1. Which meaning of the word beat do you intend? There are three.
2. Is silly describing me, meaning I am a silly Goss, or is it describing how you will beat me in one of the three ways to an extent to which it becomes humorous? which raises a third question.
3. Is it humorous to me or you that you are beating me in one of the three meanings of beatings when you are doing it?
Goes stop trolling this threshold its for the submission of Mega battle custom stuff go troll the magic board or something
Goes stop trolling this threshold its for the submission of Mega battle custom stuff go troll the magic board or something
typo when using my phone, it was supposed to be thread.
So... Hi all, I will be playing on order with Murph's Space marines, the list is still under development and I am new to 40K only my 4th attempt to start, let's see if this time we succeed.
Haven't seen too many pictures of Things being approved. Nothing that new this year huh..
Oh well...
Nope. They just are.
Nope. They just are.
you think you're so smart don't you with your monocle on.
Haven't seen too many pictures of Things being approved. Nothing that new this year huh..
Oh well...
Haven't seen too many pictures of Things being approved. Nothing that new this year huh..
Oh well...
There is still time!
Tick Tock.....
1. Yeah, that's Mike Do. :P
2. Just the sensor array. The Bastion just happened to be there when I took the picture.
I have a couple questions ad I finalize my list of the megabattle:
I built one of my Nobz units using the Black Orks from WarHammer Fantasy.
1) Instead of putting the slugga on that is base, I used a second choppa. Given that a slugga gives me a shooting attack and an additional attack in close combat. and a second choppa would give me an additional attack in close combat, i.e. eliminating the shooting attack(but a second choppa is not actually an option for Nobz). so, because I'm not actually gaining any different advantage and am only taking something away from myself(a shooting attack), would this be allowed?
2)When building this unit, I built the Musician with drum and drumstick. Would I be able to use him as a Painboy? or is that too far of a stretch?
3)I have a Killa Kan with a Kustom Mega-Blasta that is built using other random pieces. Do I just post a pic of it on this thread for approval? or how do I go about getting approval?
awesome, thank you both.
this is my first megabattle, so I wasn't too sure on how strict WYSIWYG was so I wanted to double check.
The kustom mega-blasta is built from 3 separate pieces glued together... I think its one of the guns from a lemun russ, the smoke exhaust from a sentinal, and some other random piece. but since it wasn't technically a kustom mega-blasta, I wanted to double check.
thanks guys!!
Mike, I believe that is already in the new white dwarf.
I might like to use the model I made last year as the special character. It's a lord, the Necron Toxic Avenger, but it's on the bigger base that we painted white on the edge. Would it be ok to use that this year? I'd rather not re-base it because of some of the things I put on the base for looks.
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Oh, and I'm assuming that my skullhamma is ok, correct? Everybody (including Derek) that has seen it has loved it
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Brian, I can't tell if you like what you see, don't like what you see or if you've just discovered the joys of crack cocaine.
Do not assume. Please post it here or talk to Kevin / Derek for approval.
Oh sorry about that, yes I like it very much and I'm pretty impressed
It also says, "Sure, your model can be painted to look like garbage because we already said it's okay."
Wow not even a troll conment from dave goss.BIG WHOOP WANA FIGHT ABOUT IT?!
Wow not even a troll conment from dave goss.BIG WHOOP WANA FIGHT ABOUT IT?!
Wow not even a troll conment from dave goss.BIG WHOOP WANA FIGHT ABOUT IT?!
no