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Games Workshop => Warhammer 40K => Topic started by: jhobin on March 07, 2014, 10:18:40 AM
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Saw this on Naftka:
Week 1: three kits:
- Ogryns/Bullgryns plastic combo-kit (one unit with ranged weapons, the other with giant shields and close combat weapons)
- Stormtroopers/Veterans combo-kit
- Unseen "Big transport" kit.
I'm wondering what the Big transport kits going to be the Gorgon. Current fluff would lead one to believe its the gorgon but the size is suppose to Land Raider sized which the Gorgon is close to Baneblade. The Bullgryns are suppose to a type of riot squad ogryns with shields and clubs. I'm getting excited for this codex. I might have to make the transition from mech to foot.
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Im looking forward to the guard release. I just hope it will be competitive not just 1 or 2 good units and the rest crap. Like my chaos and dark angels codexes.
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Ooooooooh, Bullgryns sound awesome. I will probably buy some for painting funtimes (aka, Brad fingerpaints minis!). A time honored Brad club activity :)
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I'm also anticipating this release highly, it's coming jus in time for tax refunds! IG is my first and largest army, hope they are done well rules wise. Also looking forward to picking up the vets kit assuming that there is one as well as hopefully a hydra kit if they release one.
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Saw this in the AM
http://natfka.blogspot.com/2014/03/imperial-guard-leaks-are-here-militarum.html?m=1
I don't mind the vehicle the tracks look a little off. I can't see the pics of the new storm troopers well enough on my iPhone.
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More pics here.
http://millests.blogspot.com/2014/03/possible-imperial-guard-sneak-peeks.html?m=1
New transport is interesting, there's supposedly a new tank as well. Overall I look forward to chase taking my money but I still hate this 3 week spread out release crap. What's the point of releasing models BEFORE the codex lol
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I like the new look to the command squad.
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On Faeit he has a picture of a book cover for a "Militarum Tempestus", while the other link shows the Astra Militarum book cover. As such, and as noted in the comments for Faeit's post, it seems like we are looking at a codex + supplement release in the next month or so for IG.
The new vehicle looks meh to me, I think it would have looked better on wheels tbh or as a half-track (the best option imo).
The command squad looks ripe for kit bashing opportunities though, I'm looking forward to picking up a couple of them!
Gotta agree about the extended release timetable. I'll still be buying IG stuff (not ready to call them 'AM' yet) but I'm definitely going to wait until I get the rules in my hand before spending anything!
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my money but I still hate this 3 week spread out release crap. What's the point of releasing models BEFORE the codex lol
To try and avoid what happened with the Dark Angels flyers. Best looking flyer kit GW put out (barely edging out the beloved ork dakka jet...at least according to me). Was planning on buying 2-3 for my Ravenwing army....but the rules came out and the thing was pretty much garbage in the game. So I bought 0 (actually bought some Warmachine instead).
Since they do not care about rules (but still they still think you should pay an ultra premium for rules they do not care about), they hope people will buy based on "ooooh pretty" and then if/when the rules suck, they still have their sale and do not have tons of DA flyers still on a shelf.
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The new vehicle looks meh to me, I think it would have looked better on wheels tbh or as a half-track (the best option imo).
I kind of like it...but only if I need a 5th BattleWagon once the new Ork codex comes out.
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my money but I still hate this 3 week spread out release crap. What's the point of releasing models BEFORE the codex lol
To try and avoid what happened with the Dark Angels flyers. Best looking flyer kit GW put out (barely edging out the beloved ork dakka jet...at least according to me). Was planning on buying 2-3 for my Ravenwing army....but the rules came out and the thing was pretty much garbage in the game. So I bought 0 (actually bought some Warmachine instead).
Since they do not care about rules (but still they still think you should pay an ultra premium for rules they do not care about), they hope people will buy based on "ooooh pretty" and then if/when the rules suck, they still have their sale and do not have tons of DA flyers still on a shelf.
When they did the dwarf release they had the rules for the new models in that weekly white dwarf thing. I guess check the weekly white dwarf then.
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Looks like 40k Radio is right again, I'm going start preparing for 7th ed in May.
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I hate that trukk thing. Gross. But I like the stormies and will be ordering 2 boxes of them to start.
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Pictures of new ogyrns as well as hydra on faeit. The hydra is getting bought, ogryns i will wait and see the rules first.
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I like the bull ogryuns over the standard ones. I was thinking the bull's were going to have hth and shield looks like they have some kind of shooty weapon. Interestingly it looks like they're getting an armor upgrade for the unit. Hopefully they're cheaper or rules are better to warrant taking them.
The Hydra looks good as well. I don't have one yet, I'm glad I waited. I'm interested in its point cost and rules. Unless I'm mistaken they can only skyfire now, correct?
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Currently, the IG FAQ says the Hydra only has the 'skyfire' rule, so snapshots at anything not a flying monstrous creature, skimmer, or flyer. Additionally, anything it shoots at cannot get a jink save due to its auto-targeter. A lot of people, myself included, are hoping they add interceptor to it or at least allow it to fire full BS at both regular and skimmer/flying targets. After all, it's been common practice in regular warfare for AA guns to be using as light antitank when needed seeing as they are often capable of traversing down to being parallel with the ground.
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If the space marine hunter tank is any indicator, it will only be able to skyfire and will not have interceptor.
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If the space marine hunter tank is any indicator, it will only be able to skyfire and will not have interceptor.
Hopefully GW has learned their lesson and realizes "hey, I bet we'd sell more models if we actually makes it worth a damn!"
Crazy talk I tell you
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This release has me excited for 40k. The Storm Trooper models look cool, the truck is screaming to be converted to an awesome halftrack, and the leaked cover looks a hell of a lot like Ibram Gaunt, which gives me a good feeling about the fluff side and hopefully regimental doctrine's return.
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Doctrines would be nice to see again. I play Steel Legion so doctrines aren't really necessary as long as infantry platoons still have access to chimera's and conscripts are still in the codex.
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There's a post on naftka about a rule for the shield toting ogyrun. They basically can go immobile for a turn and provide a 4+ cover save. Similar to a mobile aegis defense line. This sounds interesting especially if they can get a transport, having a deployable aegis could be helpfulness with my mechig if the points are right.
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There's some new stuff up about the Taurox & prime:
http://natfka.blogspot.com/2014/03/militarum-tempestus-taurox-and-scion.html?m=1
Taurox doesn't seem useful for 5pts more you can get a chimera. Unless there's more info missing like fast or assault added to them. The prime looks interesting depending on weapons costs could be a cheap battle cannon shot for a rhino + 2 marines. Hopefully more info will be out this week.
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I took a look at the rules for the new stuff in the weekly white Dwarf. The taurox is 50 points and comes with a twin linked autocannnon. It can re roll dangerous terrain tests and take all the standard IG upgrades. The prime version costs 80 points and does not come with a Leman Russ battle cannon. It comes with a taurox battle cannon which is strength 7 AP 4 small blast. It has another new gun called the hot shot volley gun which is a strength 4 AP 3 24" Salvo 2/4 gun. These come standard as side sponsons. You can switch them out for twinlinked auto cannons for free. Its also BS 4 and a fast vehicle. It's only taken as a dedicated transport for the new Tempestuous Scion models which I guess are going to replace them storm troopers.
There's a couple interesting things about them. They are taken like an infantry platoon with a command squad and everything. The command squad can issue orders. The scions cost 12 points a model and they can take those hot volley guns as special weapons. The biggest change it seems is that they can now "first rank fire second rank fire" their hot shot Las guns.
So yeah these guys can put out a whole lotta AP 3 dakka. They can't take a whole lotta dakka but they can put it out. Anyway all the rules are in the new mini dwarf if anyone wants to try them out.
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The prime is also fast. A prime with the Gatling cannon and the side hotshot will be popular for 14 twin linked shots.
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The new weekly white dwarf had some pictures of cards.you can get with all the orders on them. There's some new ones.that seem pretty usefully. There's an order that lets a unit shoot then run, one that lets you split fire, one that gives you the precision shot special rule, and another that gives you pinning. So far the new guard codex is shaping up to be pretty good. I don't think it's going to be a repeat of Tyranids and Dark Angels. We'll know for sure Friday when it comes out.
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I'm excited as well. I'm going to have to re-think my army a bit, chimera's going up by 10, battle psyker's getting nerfed. On the plus it looks like armored sentinels are going rock.
I'm going to be picking up a Hydra, I don't care if they suck I've been wanting one for year's and didn't really want to have to deal with re shaping the forge world ones to make them straight.
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I heard a rumor that Veteran Squads can no longer take a 3rd special weapon. Is that true?
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Natfka's saying they've dropped to 60points and can take 1 HW and 2 SW and the special options they can take remain the same.
BOLS, made the claim that the new Wyvern puts the Griffon to shame. I don't see it, a single S6 AP4 large blast re-roll scatter, seems better to me than 4 blast S4 AP6 ignore cover, shred templates.
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That is definitely a questionable statement about the Griffon. Though I suppose with the amount of T3 infantry everywhere lately, it could be pretty effective. I hate it when things have Ignore Cover and weak AP, honestly. "This weapon is powerful enough that even the most stalwart stone outcropping will do nothing to stop it...okay make your flak armor save"
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That is definitely a questionable statement about the Griffon. Though I suppose with the amount of T3 infantry everywhere lately, it could be pretty effective. I hate it when things have Ignore Cover and weak AP, honestly. "This weapon is powerful enough that even the most stalwart stone outcropping will do nothing to stop it...okay make your flak armor save"
I'd rather have people making tests on their 4+/5+ armor than a 2+ behind an aegis or a 3+ after going to ground in area.
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yea, I can see it being useful against thinks like rushing khorne dogs behind and aegis, any conceal or stealth units. But firing indirect makes the shot come from the center of template and can to some effect negate cover save anywho, correct? plus it counts against side armor when indirect.
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I'm really liking the armored sentinel's. There a cheap AV12 vehicle that has a ton of versatility I can't wait to put them through there pace's. That is once there done getting repaired / updated and off my painting table.