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Title: [Plainville MA] Warhammer 40k 1850pt Singles Tournament - 8/2
Post by: Chase on July 08, 2014, 06:48:50 PM
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Format: Singles (1v1) 1850 points per person
Date: August 2nd, a Saturday
Time: Please be here no later than 9:15am. Set up at 9:45am. Dice roll no later than 10:00am.
Entrance Fee: $20.00 per person


Address:
25 Taunton Street
Plainville MA 02351
508.316.1195

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Battleground's Facebook Page (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Abington-MA/Battleground-Games-Hobbies/68808440618)         

Contact:
Please contact me at ChaseLaq@gmail.com to sign up if and only if you can commit to playing on August 2nd.




RULES FOR WARHAMMER 40K TOURNAMENT

This event will be capped at 30 players.

Rule Books:
The Warhammer 40,000 SEVENTH Edition Rules will be used.


The following is a list of legal army choices:
Codex: Blood Angels
Codex: Chaos Daemons
Codex: Chaos Space Marines
Codex: Grey Knights
Codex: Dark Angels
Codex: Dark Eldar
Codex: Eldar
Codex: Imperial Guard
Codex: Imperial Knights
Codex: Necrons
Codex: Orks
Codex: Space Marines
Codex: Space Wolves
Codex: Tau Empire
Codex: Tyranids
Codex: Adepta Sororitas
Coedx: Inquisition

All **faction specific** supplements and dataslates, digital and otherwise, will be allowed in this event unless otherwise noted.  If you choose to use something from a digital supplement or dataslate you MUST provide images of the relevant pages to us upon submission of your army list.


MODELS AND POINTS:

1. Each player must bring a BATTLE-FORGED army consisting of 1850 points or fewer (1825 min), in accordance with these rules.

• Armies may be constructed from a maximum of 2 Detachments (as defined in the 40K BRB), no more than one of which may be a CAD.

• Allied Detachments may be selected from the same Faction as the Primary Detachment.

• Formations are permitted as one of the 2 detachments, but not Apocalypse or Fortification Formations.

• Detachments may be produced from a maximum of one Codex / Codex Supplement.

Selected units that alter Force Organization selections WILL affect all other detachments from the same codex. For example, a Space Marines Master of the Forge allows all detachments using Codex Space Marines to take Dreadnoughts, Venerable Dreadnoughts and Ironclad Dreadnoughts as Heavy Support choices as well as Elites choices.

2. All models must follow “What You See Is What You Get” (WYSIWYG). All weapons, war gear, and so forth must be represented on the model unless otherwise approved (see number 3).  Your models do not need to be painted but they do need to be FULLY assembled.

3. Pictures of conversions or "counts as" models must be emailed to the Tournament Organizer.  There is an expectation that your conversions or "counts as" models are "hobby quality."  No "toys" will be allowed.

4. Psychic Powers - There will be no changes to the Psychic Phase or Psychic Powers for this event.  For clarifications on the way the results of some psychers and Psychic Powers will be handled, please consult the NOVA FAQ here. (https://docs.google.com/document/d/13mcnnnPW_nDoAKsWMDOQVnUi3hIizsVrNzppGggzEVs/pub)

5. Forge World and Imperial Armor lists that are 40k Approved will be legal for this event.  If you list contains FW or IA models, lists, or units, you MUST submit the rules and point cost for them when you send in your list.

At the event, players MUST have a hard copy of the Forge World / Imperial Armour rules if they wish to field that unit. NO EXCEPTIONS.

6. Lords of War will not be legal for this event.

7. Fortifications - Players fielding fortifications must provide a hard copy of the rules governing the chosen piece (from Stronghold Assault) and be familiar with the FAQ where necessary. The following Fortifications from Stronghold Assault will be legal for this event:

       • Aegis Defense Line
       • Imperial Bastion
       • Skyshield Landing Platform
       • Firestorm Redoubt
       • Vengeance Weapons Battery

8. We will require that each player submits his army list to a Battleground Tournament Organizer on or before Monday, July 28th (roughly a week before the event). We ask that players email their lists to ChaseLaq@gmail.com as soon as they are finalized. We are going to do our best to check every list before the event begins.

9. If illegal units or other rules violations are found in a player’s army list, at a minimum, the models in violation will be removed from all subsequent play. In addition, tournament points may be deducted and/or award eligibility may be forfeited. If in doubt, please ask for clarification in advance from a Battleground Tournament Organizer.


HOW THE TOURNAMENT WORKS:

• Competitors will participate in three (3) games over the course of the day. In each game, you will play a scenario and record the outcome of the battle on your results sheet. Each round you will play a different opponent.

The scenarios we will be using for this event closely resemble the scenarios found in the Independent Mission Catalog (NOVA primer missions).  They can be found here. (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XJ20WB96DzRE635aokDX3XbhOHzw4Xt0UobUZ5j56JM/pub)

• Each round will last 2 hours.  Players may begin playing as soon as they have finished deployment.

• In the first round, players will be matched up randomly. After the first round, players will be matched up according to current rankings in the tournament (based on the number of points they've scored) e.g., the team in first place will play the team in second place and so on. We will try our best not to pair players that come to the event together or regularly play each other in the first round. If a team receives a BYE they will be awarded max points.

• You will not play the same team twice.

• We will do our best to prevent players from playing on the same table twice.

• The pairings for each round will be posted as soon as they are determined. Please be sure to arrive at your table ready to play right away.

• Slow playing will NOT be tolerated.  Players are expected to complete at least 4 rounds.  If you suspect your opponent is slow playing PLEASE notify a Battleground staff member as soon as possible as we can not do anything about alleged slow play after the fact.

• Each game will be played on a 4' x 6' board.

• Players will receive Results Sheets at the beginning of each round. Each results sheet must be filled in properly to ensure that match-ups and point totals are correct. Once Results Sheets are completed they are to be turned in at the counter so the scores can be entered into the computer.




BATTLES:

The SEVENTH Edition Rulebook and all FAQs will be in use for all games and will be the definitive guide for all rules. The time limit for each game is 2 hours and players will have 10 minutes to deploy their armies. At the end of this time limit, the round will be called; players will need to finish the round as quickly as possible.


What You Need to Bring with You:
-Your (hopefully painted) miniatures
-At least THREE copies of your army list
-Rulebooks and any additional books you need
-Pen and paper
-Dice and templates
-Tape measure
-Something to transport your army from table to table



Store Credit Awards will be given out to:
Store credit is good for any product in the store and all subsequent events. It never expires and will be saved for you.

Best General
Second Best General
Third Best General

Players Choice


The Players Choice awards will go to the teams that the others feel best reflects important aspects of the hobby.  Every team will score their opponents on sportsmanship, theme, appearance, and overall awesomeness.

Best Appearance - Army (individual)

Smokin' Boots - You got crushed... and you deserve an award for your epic failure.


A team may only win one award. The Best Appearance awards may go to any one player participating in the event, regardless of their finish / other awards.

• A note on the Appearance award - We will award the individual who we feel has the best looking army. We will use a scoring rubric that looks at painting, basing, display boards, and various other "extras" to determine the winner.



Please post any questions or comments here.  I'll do my best to get answers ASAP.


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Title: Re: [Plainville MA] Warhammer 40k 1850pt Singles Tournament - 8/2
Post by: Grimwulfe on July 09, 2014, 10:09:10 AM
Chase if the SW drops the weekend before will it be legal?
Title: Re: [Plainville MA] Warhammer 40k 1850pt Singles Tournament - 8/2
Post by: Dan Bunker on July 09, 2014, 01:33:59 PM
Sign me up for this please Chase.
Title: Re: [Plainville MA] Warhammer 40k 1850pt Singles Tournament - 8/2
Post by: Chase on July 09, 2014, 02:02:47 PM
Chase if the SW drops the weekend before will it be legal?

Sure.  I guess we'll go with the new book if it is released the weekend before.
Title: Re: [Plainville MA] Warhammer 40k 1850pt Singles Tournament - 8/2
Post by: Chase on July 09, 2014, 02:41:04 PM
Sign me up for this please Chase.

Will do.  If you can, please shoot me an email of PM.
Title: Re: [Plainville MA] Warhammer 40k 1850pt Singles Tournament - 8/2
Post by: Pat.H on July 10, 2014, 01:30:51 PM
So you can't take the new Ork horde or Great WAAAGH!!! Detachments in the new Ork books as your only detachments? You have to include a combined Arms as well?
Title: Re: [Plainville MA] Warhammer 40k 1850pt Singles Tournament - 8/2
Post by: Chase on July 10, 2014, 02:35:10 PM
So you can't take the new Ork horde or Great WAAAGH!!! Detachments in the new Ork books as your only detachments? You have to include a combined Arms as well?

I'm glad you asked this because it made me go back and check what the NOVA dudes are doing to make sure I got it right.  It looks like I mis-read their rules.  You WILL be able to do this.  I'm going to update the event post with the correct rules right now.
Title: Re: [Plainville MA] Warhammer 40k 1850pt Singles Tournament - 8/2
Post by: JimH1164 on July 13, 2014, 11:37:11 PM
I will be there with my Necrons. I will send along my list soon.
Title: Re: [Plainville MA] Warhammer 40k 1850pt Singles Tournament - 8/2
Post by: Typhus on July 14, 2014, 07:11:29 AM
FW/IA being allowed, does this mean we can use the Forgeworld Space Marine Chapter Tactics?
Title: Re: [Plainville MA] Warhammer 40k 1850pt Singles Tournament - 8/2
Post by: Chase on July 14, 2014, 01:19:01 PM
FW/IA being allowed, does this mean we can use the Forgeworld Space Marine Chapter Tactics?

If you're bringing a special SM list you can use their tactics.

Hopefully I won't regret this.
Title: Re: [Plainville MA] Warhammer 40k 1850pt Singles Tournament - 8/2
Post by: MM3791 on July 16, 2014, 05:06:47 PM
If you're bringing a special SM list you can use their tactics.

Hopefully I won't regret this.

Lol
Title: Re: [Plainville MA] Warhammer 40k 1850pt Singles Tournament - 8/2
Post by: lupa15 on July 28, 2014, 04:18:42 PM
Couple of questions:
Do Grey Knights still have the Heroic Sacrifice power?

Does the SM Librarian have access to Divination and Pyromancy?
Title: Re: [Plainville MA] Warhammer 40k 1850pt Singles Tournament - 8/2
Post by: AstartesXXVI on July 29, 2014, 10:31:53 AM
The FAQ replaced each unit's powers with ones from the Sanctic Daemonology discipline.
Title: Re: [Plainville MA] Warhammer 40k 1850pt Singles Tournament - 8/2
Post by: lupa15 on July 29, 2014, 01:58:04 PM
Thanks, I saw something online where people were discussing it in 7th. I thought that was the case.  I just found this out. So apparently Castellan Crowe can't join a unit, what did I miss?
Title: Re: [Plainville MA] Warhammer 40k 1850pt Singles Tournament - 8/2
Post by: Grimwulfe on July 29, 2014, 03:14:51 PM
He has never been able to join a unit.
Title: Re: [Plainville MA] Warhammer 40k 1850pt Singles Tournament - 8/2
Post by: robpro on July 31, 2014, 11:00:00 AM
How many people are signed up so far?

Also, how do you plan on playing the Necron Catacomb Command Barge/Phase Shifter issue? There is some debate about whether Or not the 3+ invulnerable save affects the vehicles profile as well as the Overlord due to the wargear description and the rulebook stating that chariots should be considered one model. It would be nice to know so I can build my list accordingly.
Title: Re: [Plainville MA] Warhammer 40k 1850pt Singles Tournament - 8/2
Post by: Chase on July 31, 2014, 04:29:22 PM
17 people as of right now.  Lists were due Monday, so if you're planning to play, email me a list now.


Q:
Quote
Catacomb Command Barge - do wounds allocated to the chariot still get the 3+ invulnerable from the phase shifter?

Necron Codex pg 82 - Phase Shifter - A model with a phase shifter has a 3+ invulnerable save.

BRB - second paragraph under Chariots - A Chariot is an unusual unit with a dual profile – a non-vehicle profile for the rider of the Chariot (see below), and a vehicle profile for the Chariot itself. However, a Chariot is always treated as a single model.


A:
Quote
Interesting question! I think [he's] got it right; if they're treated as a single model, and if things like Ever-Living Protocols affect the chariot, I think the phase shifter would as well.
Title: Re: [Plainville MA] Warhammer 40k 1850pt Singles Tournament - 8/2
Post by: Tsilber on July 31, 2014, 10:11:11 PM
How many people are signed up so far?

Also, how do you plan on playing the Necron Catacomb Command Barge/Phase Shifter issue? There is some debate about whether Or not the 3+ invulnerable save affects the vehicles profile as well as the Overlord due to the wargear description and the rulebook stating that chariots should be considered one model. It would be nice to know so I can build my list accordingly.

Are you serious? Does that mean a Chapter master with a storm shield inside a land raider gives the land raider a 3+ invul? cmon.. you know how its suppose to run. Or Azreals 4++ invul for any unit he joins confers to the storm raven he's riding in? You should be ashamed of yourself Rob lol.

EDIT: original reason I came to the boards. Chase LIST EMAILED! See you saturday boys and gals.
Title: Re: [Plainville MA] Warhammer 40k 1850pt Singles Tournament - 8/2
Post by: Sam on August 01, 2014, 01:27:31 AM
As soon as the rules say that a Chapter Master and his land raider are considered to be one model for all purposes, then yes. Until that day, no.
Title: Re: [Plainville MA] Warhammer 40k 1850pt Singles Tournament - 8/2
Post by: fiesta0618 on August 01, 2014, 09:49:40 AM
What time do we expect this to wrap up?  If it will be done by 5:30, I can do it (and I would very much like to)
Title: Re: [Plainville MA] Warhammer 40k 1850pt Singles Tournament - 8/2
Post by: Tsilber on August 01, 2014, 10:23:41 AM
As soon as the rules say that a Chapter Master and his land raider are considered to be one model for all purposes, then yes. Until that day, no.
hahah, okay. No matter to me either way.
Title: Re: [Plainville MA] Warhammer 40k 1850pt Singles Tournament - 8/2
Post by: Chase on August 01, 2014, 05:09:48 PM
What time do we expect this to wrap up?  If it will be done by 5:30, I can do it (and I would very much like to)

It should be done at or before 530.
Title: Re: [Plainville MA] Warhammer 40k 1850pt Singles Tournament - 8/2
Post by: Tsilber on August 03, 2014, 01:23:10 PM
 Had a great time. Nice to see a lot of faces again. And Grats to SIMON! SOB got it done... and he played Sisters Of Battle also. (see what i did there? I made a funny)

 Great turnout, my Daemons are now going on the shelf for a while, what a great run with them. From Winning Onslaught GT to about 1 year worth of placing and showing in 11 tournaments (including 3 best painting and 7 first places) at the Wiz, BattleStandard, Time Machine, and Battlegrounds tournies.

 So whats next....

COBRA themed IG! (well unless Dark Eldar come out by the end of the year, or before I can finish IG)
Title: Re: [Plainville MA] Warhammer 40k 1850pt Singles Tournament - 8/2
Post by: Grimwulfe on August 04, 2014, 10:32:34 AM
I had a great time as well.  3 fun games with 3 fun people.  Look forward to the next one.
Title: Re: [Plainville MA] Warhammer 40k 1850pt Singles Tournament - 8/2
Post by: AstartesXXVI on August 04, 2014, 01:24:42 PM
So whats next....

COBRA themed IG! (well unless Dark Eldar come out by the end of the year, or before I can finish IG)
Can't wait to see this.
Title: Re: [Plainville MA] Warhammer 40k 1850pt Singles Tournament - 8/2
Post by: andalucien on August 04, 2014, 01:48:41 PM
I saw a guy at Nova who had a fully GI Joe IG army.  It was pretty neat... Cobra even better
Title: Re: [Plainville MA] Warhammer 40k 1850pt Singles Tournament - 8/2
Post by: Grimwulfe on August 04, 2014, 02:28:38 PM
His was cobra themed.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/429277.page
Title: Re: [Plainville MA] Warhammer 40k 1850pt Singles Tournament - 8/2
Post by: Dalymiddleboro on August 05, 2014, 01:28:27 PM
Had a great time. Nice to see a lot of faces again. And Grats to SIMON! SOB got it done... and he played Sisters Of Battle also. (see what i did there? I made a funny)

 Great turnout, my Daemons are now going on the shelf for a while, what a great run with them. From Winning Onslaught GT to about 1 year worth of placing and showing in 11 tournaments (including 3 best painting and 7 first places) at the Wiz, BattleStandard, Time Machine, and Battlegrounds tournies.

 So whats next....

COBRA themed IG! (well unless Dark Eldar come out by the end of the year, or before I can finish IG)


I'm also starting a Vostroyan regiment while waiting for DE's new book (hopefully november!). Cheers!